The Deportation of Kilmar Armando Abrego Garcia

[EasternVol]

The underlying case is the immigration process not AEA. The lower court doesn't have jurisdiction as it pertains to AEA see Trump v JGG.

They guy was removed via AEA, and it was successful.

What else is there to adjudicate as far as his status?

You better let the SC know they’re barking up the wrong tree.

 

[Vol8188]

ALL of this - literally every word of the above - came from the word of one person who said he was in a gang in a state he never even visited, got arrested days later and never testified in court. Like I said, without that guy's extremely flimsy hearsay there's absolutely nothing

That’s a lie. There’s a police report I posted the link to that states he was detained with gang members and wearing gang attire. That’s not from the informant.

https://www.justice.gov/ag/media/1396906/dl?inline

 

[NashVol11]

 

[LSU-SIU]

You better let the SC know they’re barking up the wrong tree.

They already did, they said the court has no jurisdiction as to AEA in this context (see J.G.G.), and they told the court in the immigration case they don't really have a person and most likely don't have further authority.

 

[NashVol11]

That’s a lie. There’s a police report I posted the link to that states he was detained with gang members and wearing gang attire. That’s not from the informant.

https://www.justice.gov/ag/media/1396906/dl?inline

The guy who wrote this was the one they couldn't cross examine because he was suspended for leaking confidential information to a sex worker

Cop Behind MS-13 Dad Claim Was Convicted of Sex Worker Scandal

The police detective who accused a mistakenly deported Maryland dad of being a member of the gang MS-13 was suspended days later for leaking confidential information to a woman he was paying for sex. President Donald Trump’s administration has admitted Kilmar Abrego Garcia was deported to the...

www.yahoo.com

 

[Vol8188]

The police report you continue ignoring states he was arrested with $1178 on him. The other men had marijuana on them that they discarded

This is from the same link I’ve been posting.

 

[LSU-SIU]

Whether he is in a gang or not isn't really relevant at this stage.

 

[Vol8188]

The guy who wrote this was the one they couldn't cross examine because he was suspended for leaking confidential information to a sex worker

Cop Behind MS-13 Dad Claim Was Convicted of Sex Worker Scandal

The police detective who accused a mistakenly deported Maryland dad of being a member of the gang MS-13 was suspended days later for leaking confidential information to a woman he was paying for sex. President Donald Trump’s administration has admitted Kilmar Abrego Garcia was deported to the...

www.yahoo.com

Cool. He specifically names other detectives (not informants) who identified the other men as known gang members.

Is your claim now that the entire police department was involved in a conspiracy against this man?

 

[EasternVol]

They already did, they said the court has no jurisdiction as to AEA in this context (see J.G.G.), and they told the court in the immigration case they don't really have a person and most likely don't have further authority.

And they still said to facilitate his return? They must not know what they’re doing.

 

[NashVol11]

Cool. He specifically names other detectives (not informants) who identified the other men as known gang members.

Is your claim now that the entire police department was involved in a conspiracy against this man?

"The other men" or ONE man? Doing your dishonesty thing again?

 

[LSU-SIU]

And they still said to facilitate his return? They must not know what they’re doing.

They are saying via the immigration process there was a stay, and they are using the U.S. position that they made a "mistake"... to correct the "mistake", but no "mistake" was made.

Okay, they know what they are doing, they said the lower court would probably not have authority to do much of anything. The lower court, doesn't really have authority and they most likely lost jurisdiction at this point.

What else is there to adjudicate? Under the immigration process, his status was already determined... the only issue was destination which was solved by the removal via AEA.

The military could be ordered to hit that guy with a hellfire missile right now.

 

[EasternVol]

They are saying via the immigration process there was a stay, and they are using the U.S. position that they made a "mistake"... to correct the "mistake", but no "mistake" was made.

Okay, they know what they are doing, they said the lower court would probably not have authority to do much of anything.

Why the instruction to facilitate his return then?

 

[LSU-SIU]

Why the instruction to facilitate his return then?

Because under the immigration process there was stay of the deportation order i.e. destination. That was solved by using the AEA process for immediate removal.

He has a valid deportation order. There really isn't anything to adjudicate, his legal status via either process is that he is illegal. Nobody is claiming he has legal status.

 

[dalton_vol]

Same ones cheered for OJ. after being 99.4 guilty…we ride with that .6

The OJ situation was the 1st time I really notices how the media affected and pushed a certain narrative. They accused America of wanting him guilty because he was black, yet OJ, was loved by America, he was popular, he was in the naked gun movies. They pushed a lie and it ended up freeing a guy who killed his wife and another.

 

[Vol8188]

"The other men" or ONE man? Doing your dishonesty thing again?

I was going off memory when I made that statement. One man the detective recognized, the second man the detective recognized as a gang member based on his tattoos.

Dishonesty seems to be your style here since you’re trying to pretend he’s just a Chicago Bulls fan.

 

[Vol8188]

"The other men" or ONE man? Doing your dishonesty thing again?

At this point what’s the additional evidence you feel you need?

Arrested with two other MS-13 members. Wearing multiple articles of MS-13 attire.

And you believe this is just all coincidental?

 

[Vol8188]

He wasn't even named anywhere other than by the guy who said he was in the Westerns clique in New York, and then that guy got arrested. Funny how there's nothing and people will still argue

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You agree your statement is wrong and that he was named, given I literally provided you the documents naming him…right?

 

[evillawyer]

At this point what’s the additional evidence you feel you need?

Arrested with two other MS-13 members. Wearing multiple articles of MS-13 attire.

And you believe this is just all coincidental?

Gosh, I just wish we had something, like a process, that was due to people, that we could use to sort all of this out, so we don't have to guess and speculate. What do you think? Good idea or not?

 

[NashVol11]

I was going off memory when I made that statement. One man the detective recognized, the second man the detective recognized as a gang member based on his tattoos.

Dishonesty seems to be your style here since you’re trying to pretend he’s just a Chicago Bulls fan.

So one man. And because of that one man, 4 people standing in a Home Depot parking lot in broad daylight looking for work is a gang meeting. FOH

 

[Vol8188]

So one man. And because of that one man, 4 people standing in a Home Depot parking lot in broad daylight looking for work is a gang meeting. FOH

Dishonest….again. No one called it a meeting.

What’s the missing piece of information here that you need to believe that he’s a gang member?

 

[Vol8188]

Gosh, I just wish we had something, like a process, that was due to people, that we could use to sort all of this out, so we don't have to guess and speculate. What do you think? Good idea or not?

He’s been before more judges than most of us will go before in our entire lives

 

[LouderVol]

They already did, they said the court has no jurisdiction as to AEA in this context (see J.G.G.), and they told the court in the immigration case they don't really have a person and most likely don't have further authority.

thats not saying there is no court with jurisdiction as to AEA in the whole country. they were saying the DC judge doesn't have AEA jurisdiction for a case in Texas. not that there is no one in Texas with jurisdiction on AEA. that would be the case for any law, not just AEA.

 

[Orange_Crush]

A gang that he fled from to come here as he checked in annually with ICE and DHS, but he was probably in a gang that whole time because of a hat and a hoodie. Hilariously flimsy

There's better evidence of that than evidence of his affiliations to the gang here?

Interestingly enough, when he was initially detained as an illegal, he stated that he was here illegally and that he had no fear of returning to El Salvador. Doesn't sound like he fled anything there (until an attorney would have told him that his chancer are better as an asylum-seeker who had never sought asylum).

Trump Ignores the Courts

Constitutional crisis? Dipshit Trump knowingly and wilfully illegally deported a man wrongfully who has a get out of jail free card. Hope ****ing Trump burns in hell on this one.

www.volnation.com

ALL of this - literally every word of the above - came from the word of one person who said he was in a gang in a state he never even visited, got arrested days later and never testified in court. Like I said, without that guy's extremely flimsy hearsay there's absolutely nothing

Did you mean that there is documented testimony by arresting officers that they observed him wearing the gang-affiliation attire?

Trump Ignores the Courts

Constitutional crisis? Dipshit Trump knowingly and wilfully illegally deported a man wrongfully who has a get out of jail free card. Hope ****ing Trump burns in hell on this one.

www.volnation.com

(Also, see the above for your irony. You demand a certain level of proof for his affiliation with no level of proof needed for the claim that he was fleeing a gang in ES.)

 

[evillawyer]

So one man. And because of that one man, 4 people standing in a Home Depot parking lot in broad daylight looking for work is a gang meeting. FOH

Weird how they don't want to apply that logic to all those photos of Trump with Epstein.

 

[LSU-SIU]

thats not saying there is no court with jurisdiction as to AEA in the whole country. they were saying the DC judge doesn't have AEA jurisdiction for a case in Texas. not that there is no one in Texas with jurisdiction on AEA. that would be the case for any law, not just AEA.

That's not the really the way I put it.

the court has no jurisdiction as to AEA in this context

The court involving the individual lacks jurisdiction as no proper petition was filed that invoked its jurisdiction, in this case the lower court has jurisdiction over the underlying immigration case but not over the AEA order.

In theory the lower court could have jurisdiction of a habeas if it was filed in the correct venue for judicial review as it pertains to a AEA order. Since the individual is not in U.S. custody, the court would lack jurisdiction on habeas at this time.