Trade Wars and Tariffs

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hog88 said:
Yes, Canada and most of our so called allies are unfair markets. They have been bending us over for decades.
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OK. Can you show me specifics? Exactly what does Canada need to do in order to have the tariffs on them lifted?
 
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hog88 said:
That I don't know but it wasn't your original question.

I'll take a guess and say they could remove all tariffs and trade barriers and that would do it.
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When I asked what is this all about? I was asking for specifics. I still don’t know what is unfair about Canada‘s markets. Are they taxing aluminum? Cars? Electricity? What exactly is this all about?
 
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Sea Ray said:
When I asked what is this all about? I was asking for specifics. I still don’t know what is unfair about Canada‘s markets. Are they taxing aluminum? Cars? Electricity? What exactly is this all about?
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I gave you a link regarding dairy products and how Canada has set up barriers to US imports. IDK about aluminum, cars or electricity but if they are hindering imports of US dairy products what makes you think they aren't doing the same with other commodities?
 
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hog88 said:
I gave you a link regarding dairy products and how Canada has set up barriers to US imports. IDK about aluminum, cars or electricity but if they are hindering imports of US dairy products what makes you think they aren't doing the same with other commodities?
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Your link said those barriers were never reached and that Trump negotiated those terms in 2018. Do you really think it’s worth tanking the stock market over something so trivial it’s non existent? If that’s what this is all about then Trump’s got big issues. I don’t think he does have such issues. It’s gotta be about more than that
 
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Sea Ray said:
Your link said those barriers were never reached and that Trump negotiated those terms in 2018. Do you really think it’s worth tanking the stock market over something so trivial it’s non existent? If that’s what this is all about then Trump’s got big issues. I don’t think he does have such issues. It’s gotta be about more than that
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No, my link said that the Canadian barriers to US dairy imports prevented producers from ever reaching their import quota so the 200% tariff on imports over the quota has never been imposed. They prevent us from importing our full quota.
 
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hog88 said:
No, my link said that the Canadian barriers to US dairy imports prevented producers from ever reaching their import quota so the 200% tariff on imports over the quota has never been imposed. They prevent us from importing our full quota.
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That's not how I read it. They said we never even got close to those barriers. If what you're saying is true, I'd expect the numbers to show that we exported right up to those barriers and then stopped. Why didn't that happen? There was nothing keeping us from doing that
 
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hog88 said:
I gave you a link regarding dairy products and how Canada has set up barriers to US imports. IDK about aluminum, cars or electricity but if they are hindering imports of US dairy products what makes you think they aren't doing the same with other commodities?
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The US has never met the quota to kick in the high dairy product tariff. I think the tariff stuff is just a waste of political capital.
 
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Sea Ray said:
That's not how I read it. They said we never even got close to those barriers. If what you're saying is true, I'd expect the numbers to show that we exported right up to those barriers and then stopped. Why didn't that happen? There was nothing keeping us from doing that
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I don't see any ambiguity in her statement:

Becky Rasdall Vargas, senior vice president of trade and workforce policy at IDFA, said: “Frustratingly, the U.S. has never gotten close to exceeding our USMCA quotas because Canada has erected various protectionist measures that fly in the face of their trade obligations made under USMCA.
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Canada has erected protectionist measures which prevent us from even getting close to exceeding our import quotas.
 
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Sea Ray said:
That's the problem I identified. Trump's administration has done a poor job communicating this to us. It's not up to Google to tell us
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It's up to you to be an informed citizen and not rely on others to spoon feed you information but here are a couple articles that go into more depth about the dairy products and Canada's import barriers.

The US–Canada Dairy Trade Dispute: Unraveling the Complexities

https://www.farmprogress.com/farm-policy/the-real-story-behind-canada-s-250-dairy-tariffs
 
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hog88 said:
It's up to you to be an informed citizen and not rely on others to spoon feed you information but here are a couple articles that go into more depth about the dairy products and Canada's import barriers.

The US–Canada Dairy Trade Dispute: Unraveling the Complexities

https://www.farmprogress.com/farm-policy/the-real-story-behind-canada-s-250-dairy-tariffs
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Trump is the one imposing these tariffs. I want to hear his reasoning. I want him to tell me specifically what he wants from Canada and why he did it

I'm not convinced he knows the specifics any better than you and I do
 
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hog88 said:
Right, we haven't because Canada won't let us even meet our full quota.
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It appears you are correct.

Becky Rasdall Vargas, the organization’s senior vice president of trade and workforce policy, argued in an interview that Canada is to blame for the inability of the US to get to the maximums, saying Canada is unfairly deploying obstacles that make it “harder and harder” for the US to sell into the Canadian market. She said that while “we don’t love the tariffs,” the primary issue is that “we can never even fill the quota to begin with” because Canada is using administrative tactics to deny the US the market access it is supposed to have under the USMCA.

 
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