2024 Presidential Race

[luthervol]

Which still doesn't address the issue. Can the CiC pull troops out of a foreign country or can the military ignore the order and then lie to the CiC? Do you believe that's how it should work?

I believe there has to be contingencies in place for an insane leader - more so now than ever, looking at 2024.

We are going to have an insane leader and/or one with crippling dementia.

 

[midnight orange]

What? I never said that was the nations only catastrophe, just a presidentially unique one.

You said a “once in a 300 year catastrophe” which means the one big catastrophe in the last 300 years. Your wording leaves little room for interpretation.

 

[luthervol]

We were in the same number of wars and the accords were simply a money transfer. He wasn't much different but wasn't catastrophically insane for most of his term like is being claimed

Are you saying he was catastrophically insane for some of his term?

If so, welcome aboard the rational and reasonable train.

 

[utvolpj]

I believe there has to be contingencies in place for an insane leader - more so now than ever, looking at 2024.

We are going to have an insane leader and/or one with crippling dementia.

Biden has it and you'll vote to send him back.

The govt and especially the military has a chain of command. I don't know all the details but I'm positive that does not include foreign generals being given our plans ahead of the actions.

You still haven't answered: Can the CiC pull troops out of a foreign country or can the military ignore the order and then lie to the CiC? Do you believe that's how it should work?

 

[luthervol]

You said a “once in a 300 year catastrophe” which means the one big catastrophe in the last 300 years. Your wording leaves little room for interpretation.

You left out the word anomaly - which is important.

 

[utvolpj]

Are you saying he was catastrophically insane for some of his term?

If so, welcome aboard the rational and reasonable train.

No. He never exhibited it wrt military action. They should be in prison

 

[luthervol]

Biden has it and you'll vote to send him back.

The govt and especially the military has a chain of command. I don't know all the details but I'm positive that does not include foreign generals being given our plans ahead of the actions.

You still haven't answered: Can the CiC pull troops out of a foreign country or can the military ignore the order and then lie to the CiC? Do you believe that's how it should work?

Because I prefer someone with crippling dementia who is making no decisions over someone who is insane plus has dementia and refuses to listen to others with more knowledge.

 

[midnight orange]

You left out the word anomaly - which is important.

It’s really not.

 

[lostsheep]

Are you saying it didn't happen?

Apologies. That was intended for another post, not yours.

 

[SpaceCoastVol]

That's a ridiculous argument ... and when Trump says that it was "rigged," he is obviously talking about votes having been changed from him to Biden. It wasn't rigged. An unpopular President lost a free and fair election.

But if he wins this year it will undoubtedly be because of cheating, right?

 

[utvolpj]

Because I prefer someone with crippling dementia who is making no decisions over someone who is insane plus has dementia and refuses to listen to others with more knowledge.

That's a govt run by the deep state. You should stop calling Trump insane since you just confirmed

 

[kiddiedoc]

Because I prefer someone with crippling dementia who is making no decisions over someone who is insane plus has dementia and refuses to listen to others with more knowledge.

I don't think you realize what you just admitted to.

 

[85SugarVol]

I don't think you realize what you just admitted to.

I think he’s perfectly fine with it.

 

[luthervol]

I don't think you realize what you just admitted to.

I'm confident that I do.

 

[kiddiedoc]

I'm confident that I do.

Then, I'm legit sorry that you feel that way about our Country. But, for God's sake, no more BS from you about the legitimacy of elections.

 

[hog88]

Well...

It’s going to happen regardless.

 

[hog88]

Sure it does - during that once in every 300 year catastrophic anomaly..........i.e. (trump)
It has to work that way, for the sake of humanity.

Why can't you guys process that?

Lincoln was a much bigger catastrophe and it’s not even close.

 

[PEPPERJAX]

I'm confident that I do.

Well Pepperjax is confident too Ole Guther. The confidence is fueled by the fact that MAGA round two is imminent buddy! Enjoy Grandpa Joe and his tales of cannibalism while you can over ice cream because the Orange Man cometh. You along with other Lib goobers are going to be crying soon enough watching your Michael Moore documentaries and sipping on white claws. A bucket of KFC in every pot is just around the corner.

 

[PEPPERJAX]

Lincoln was a much bigger catastrophe and it’s not even close.

Are you trying to say that the Civil War didn't unite us?

 

[USF grad in TN]

I believe there has to be contingencies in place for an insane leader - more so now than ever, looking at 2024.

We are going to have an insane leader and/or one with crippling dementia.

25th amendment

 

[hog88]

Sure it works that way. It did work that way. It needed to work that way. It's the ultimate in checks and balances.

I hope that other countries have methods in place to negate the catastrophic actions of an insane leader.

What catastrophic actions were those?

 

[hog88]

We should all hope that it is how it works - globally.

I'm guessing removing troops from Syria was not catastrophically insane, but I don't really know.

Surely it is not your position that if a president orders a catastrophic global military action that it should be carried out without question.

Yes, if it is a legal order. Nobody is obliged to follow an illegal order.

 

[hog88]

I believe there has to be contingencies in place for an insane leader - more so now than ever, looking at 2024.

We are going to have an insane leader and/or one with crippling dementia.

Considering the catastrophic results of the Afghanistan withdrawal, should our military leaders just ignored Biden and kept the troops there?

 

[hog88]

I believe there has to be contingencies in place for an insane leader - more so now than ever, looking at 2024.

We are going to have an insane leader and/or one with crippling dementia.

It’s called the 25th amendment.

 

[luthervol]

Yes, if it is a legal order. Nobody is obliged to follow an illegal order.

So there's the rub. Who decides if the globally catastrophic order of a madman is a legal order....or not?