That's racist!

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85SugarVol said:
What part of history are you referencing when Africa ruled the world?

There were sub-sharan African empires of great wealth, but I’m not sure about their global reach and ability to project power.
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Go back and watch the video I posted on "The Blameless Ethiopians" in its entirety. According to the Ancient Greeks, Africans founded cities in places as far away as Persia. This wasn't mentioned in the video but Herodutus also famously mentioned how a "black skin wooly hair" people referred to as the Colchians had a colony in what is today Turkey. They told Herodutus they were originally from Egypt but that they got shipwrecked in Turkey and decided to build a colony there.

Basically by the unanimous testimony of ancient scholars Sub-Saharan Africans were colonizing and discovering major cities throughout Asia and Europe. It's why for example in the Illiad, Homer has an Ethiopian King named Memnon fighting with the Greeks in the battle at Troy. It's also why mythological characters like Andromeda and Casiopeia were Ethiopians in Greek mythology.

The African was such a respected and venerated figure at that time that the Ancient Greeks would make them central figures in their myths.
 
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Dobbs 4 Heisman said:
Go back and watch the video I posted on "The Blameless Ethiopians" in its entirety. According to the Ancient Greeks, Africans founded cities in places as far away as Persia. This wasn't mentioned in the video but Herodutus also famously mentioned how a "black skin wooly hair" people referred to as the Colchians had a colony in what is today Turkey. They told Herodutus they were originally from Egypt but that they got shipwrecked in Turkey and decided to build a colony there.

Basically by the unanimous testimony of ancient scholars Sub-Saharan Africans were colonizing and discovering major cities throughout Asia and Europe. It's why for example in the Illiad, Homer has an Ethiopian King named Memnon fighting with the Greeks in the battle at Troy. It's also why mythological characters like Andromeda and Casiopeia were Ethiopians in Greek mythology.

The African was such a respected and venerated figure at that time that the Ancient Greeks would make them central figures in their myths.
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So how did they **** it all up?
 
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Dobbs 4 Heisman said:
I'm so glad you know some biblical history. But it seems you don't know it all. According to the Bible, Egypt (which is referred to as Mizraim) is a brother of Kush (which is the biblical name for Ancient Nubia). Both were sons of Ham. And as you astutely pointed out according to biblical tradition, Ham is considered the father of the black race.

Thus according to the Bible the Ancient Egyptians were black. And by the way the Bible isn't the only ancient source to say the Ancient Egyptians were black. The Ancient Greeks and Romans also stated many times that the Egyptians were black and most closely related to the Nubians.

Now does this make Cleopatra black? If you go by the American rule where any amount of black blood makes you black then she almost certainly was. Her father was Greek. But her mother was suspected to be at least partially native Egyptian. And as the Bible has already established the Ancient Egyptians were black.

The fact the Netflix documentary uses a biracial black woman to play Cleopatra does seem to be historically justified despite the attempts at whitewashing Ancient Egypt in modern times.
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lol. Glad to see your time away didn't skew your false perception of reality!

Something you probably forgot that I've already told you back in the day: Ancient Greeks also said in Ethiopia there was a race of bipedal human beings who used their one foot to shade themselves from the sun.. So yeah.

I see though you continue to attach your self worth and value to Ethiopia. Is that how many of the descendants of the self created western Africa slave trade try to find solace in regards to their station in life?
 
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Dobbs 4 Heisman said:
I've got a question for you. If this is true then why did the Ancient Greeks credit Sub-Saharan Africans with the creation of civilization?



Racism is a new thing for white people. If you look at the way Ancient Europeans looked at Africans it was with great admiration to the point that the Greeks themselves said the Gods favored the Africans above everyone else.
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Bless your heart. Was this a class project of yours? A video of conjecture and conspiracy actually recorded in a real life echo chamber. Might as well be posting pro Russia videos in another thread.
 
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Dobbs 4 Heisman said:
Go back and watch the video I posted on "The Blameless Ethiopians" in its entirety. According to the Ancient Greeks, Africans founded cities in places as far away as Persia. This wasn't mentioned in the video but Herodutus also famously mentioned how a "black skin wooly hair" people referred to as the Colchians had a colony in what is today Turkey. They told Herodutus they were originally from Egypt but that they got shipwrecked in Turkey and decided to build a colony there.

Basically by the unanimous testimony of ancient scholars Sub-Saharan Africans were colonizing and discovering major cities throughout Asia and Europe. It's why for example in the Illiad, Homer has an Ethiopian King named Memnon fighting with the Greeks in the battle at Troy. It's also why mythological characters like Andromeda and Casiopeia were Ethiopians in Greek mythology.

The African was such a respected and venerated figure at that time that the Ancient Greeks would make them central figures in their myths.
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Do you know who coined the term Africa, what it means, and why?...
 
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FLVOL_79 said:
lol. Glad to see your time away didn't skew your false perception of reality!

Something you probably forgot that I've already told you back in the day: Ancient Greeks also said in Ethiopia there was a race of bipedal human beings who used their one foot to shade themselves from the sun.. So yeah.

I see though you continue to attach your self worth and value to Ethiopia. Is that how many of the descendants of the self created western Africa slave trade try to find solace in regards to their station in life?
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The modern country of Ethiopia has nothing to do with the Ethiopia of antiquity. To the Greeks Ethiopia was all of Africa south of Egypt. Essentially what we today call Sub-Saharan Africa. And last I checked West Africa was part of Sub-Saharan Africa.

It's no different than how Ancient Rome didn't just apply to the modern city of Rome but to a vast empire that stretched across Southern Europe.
 
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FLVOL_79 said:
Bless your heart. Was this a class project of yours? A video of conjecture and conspiracy actually recorded in a real life echo chamber. Might as well be posting pro Russia videos in another thread.
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Not my video. And every quote mentioned in the video is corroborated by primary source materials.

If you have a problem with Africans being venerated, take that up with the Ancient Greeks. They are the ones who said the Ethiopians were most favored by their own Gods.
 
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volfanhill said:
So how did they **** it all up?
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Complacency. Ancient Egypt lasted for nearly 5000 years as a continuous empire. That's a really long time to be on top. Eventually things fall apart. Other nations rise and take over. It's no different than what's happening in America right now. We can all tell we're not the same country we were back in the 1940s and 1950s. The American empire is slowing dissolving. And this is only after 300 years. Imagine being a country that has existed for 5000 years. Eventually it fall apart. And once you've lost it, it can be difficult to get it back. Look at Greece, Rome, the Ottoman Empire, the Mongol Empire, etc.
 
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Dobbs 4 Heisman said:
Not my video. And every quote mentioned in the video is corroborated by primary source materials.

If you have a problem with Africans being venerated, take that up with the Ancient Greeks. They are the ones who said the Ethiopians were most favored by their own Gods.
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You referenced the Iliad and Greek Mythology as sources earlier.
 
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Will UC Berkeley or the city cut ties with slave owner namesake? (eastbaytimes.com)


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Dobbs 4 Heisman said:
Not my video. And every quote mentioned in the video is corroborated by primary source materials.

If you have a problem with Africans being venerated, take that up with the Ancient Greeks. They are the ones who said the Ethiopians were most favored by their own Gods.
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Wonder if there’s any correlation between one empire falling and the other never existing?
 
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This part cracked me up...

“We acknowledge that the university’s founders chose to name their new town and campus after an individual whose views warrant no honor or commemoration,” Mogulof said in a statement. “At the same time, we are cognizant of the fact that over the course of the ensuing 155 years since the university’s founding, ‘Berkeley’ has come to embody and represent very different values and perspectives — including our belief in, and actions to advance the application of academic excellence in support of the greater good, equity, inclusion, diversity, justice, and social mobility.”

Funny how the narrative changes once backed into a corner. Now they're celebrating what Berkeley has become and not focussing on its past.
 
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