Gun control debate (merged)

[SpaceCoastVol]

So there are people illegally selling weapons at cost? Even worse.

Why would that be 'worse'?

 

[luthervol]

And if/when the National Firearms Act is rightly ruled unconstitutional? Then what will your argument be?

We need more reasonable and rational judges.

If it continues the trend of getting worse, Hog is going to get his wish of an actual ammendment.

That will be far worse for the gun nuts than agreeing to some rational and reasonable restrictions that are compatible with 2a.

 

[luthervol]

Why would that be 'worse'?

Because the more someone has to pay for an illegal product, the less that will be sold.

 

[SpaceCoastVol]

Because the more someone has to pay for an illegal product, the less that will be sold.

LOL

 

[Vol8188]

Because the more someone has to pay for an illegal product, the less that will be sold.

You’re ignoring the important fact here. If kids have random people buy guns for them, unlike beer, the guns are tied to the random persons name.

 

[Zues1]

Because the more someone has to pay for an illegal product, the less that will be sold.

You mean like the devils lettuce.
That price increase killed that business, lol

 

[luthervol]

You’re ignoring the important fact here. If kids have random people buy guns for them, unlike beer, the guns are tied to the random persons name.

Thank god. A perfect example of a rational and reasonable law that does some good.

 

[Thunder Good-Oil]

Far more regulated than automobiles????? Are you nuts?
I would be happy to see a system where people had to bring their guns in annually to be tested and re-certified.

You think it’s a good idea to transport a million guns per day and carry them into government facilities so that government workers can determine whether or not those guns are to be certified by the government?

 

[Vol8188]

Thank god. A perfect example of a rational and reasonable law that does some good.

So you’re freaking out over something that isn’t an actual problem because once again, 5 years later, and you still know very, very little about guns

 

[luthervol]

You mean like the devils lettuce.
That price increase killed that business, lol

Are you claiming increasing prices do not decrease demand and consumption?

 

[Vol8188]

Are you claiming increasing prices do not decrease demand and consumption?

I’m claiming there’s no correlation between demand and consumption of guns within the US and homicides

 

[85SugarVol]

So there are people illegally selling weapons at cost? Even worse.

No. Less than cost.

 

[luthervol]

You think it’s a good idea to transport a million guns per day and carry them into government facilities so that government workers can determine whether or not those guns are to be certified by the government?

Not really. Just responding to the guns are more regulated than cars nonsense.

 

[C-south]

Are you claiming increasing prices do not decrease demand and consumption?

It just makes people spend more. Look at soda taxes, cigarette taxes, alcohol taxes, gas taxes, etc. Consumption does go down it just causes people to spend more so the government can waste more money.

 

[85SugarVol]

We need more reasonable and rational judges.

If it continues the trend of getting worse, Hog is going to get his wish of an actual ammendment.

That will be far worse for the gun nuts than agreeing to some rational and reasonable restrictions that are compatible with 2a.

So at that point you will have the support needed to amend the Constitution?

What will this new amendment that will be “far worse for the gun nuts” look like?

 

[luthervol]

So you’re freaking out over something that isn’t an actual problem because once again, 5 years later, and you still know very, very little about guns

You still have a debilitating lack of processing skills.

If a gun purchased in GA, illegally resold, and then used in a crime in Tulsa can be easily traced back to the original purchaser in GA, then that is a national registry. Which I'm all for.

 

[luthervol]

I’m claiming there’s no correlation between demand and consumption of guns within the US and homicides

I'm claiming that's a stupid claim.

 

[Vol8188]

You still have a debilitating lack of processing skills.

If a gun purchased in GA, illegally resold, and then used in a crime in Tulsa can be easily traced back to the original purchaser in GA, then that is a national registry. Which I'm all for.

That’s already a thing. So once again, you don’t understand what you’re talking about

 

[luthervol]

No. Less than cost.

Why would someone purchase a new gun with the intention of immediately turning around and selling it for less than they paid.

They wouldn't. You know they wouldn't.

And you know I'm not talking about Buford from Wartburg selling his 5 year old gun to his nephew.

 

[luthervol]

That’s already a thing. So once again, you don’t understand what you’re talking about

A national registry is already a thing?

 

[Vol8188]

I'm claiming that's a stupid claim.

It’s not real. We have the most guns in the world, by far. Yet are below the world average for homicide. White Americans own the most guns by far, and commit homicide at a far lower rate.

Every year in this country we have more and more guns. Yet from 1990-2017 homicides decreased every year despite increases in the number of guns in society every year.

There’s no correlation between demand for guns and homicides.

 

[luthervol]

It just makes people spend more. Look at soda taxes, cigarette taxes, alcohol taxes, gas taxes, etc. Consumption does go down it just causes people to spend more so the government can waste more money.

Well that seems to contradict everything form econ 101. But I'll remember that.

 

[luthervol]

So at that point you will have the support needed to amend the Constitution?

What will this new amendment that will be “far worse for the gun nuts” look like?

If things were to get so bad that an amendment was the only recourse, then it would basically repeal the 2a as it is currently being interpreted.

 

[hog88]

I buy cars new in upstate New York, resell them down in Texas. Making a killing.

Really?

 

[C-south]

Well that seems to contradict everything form econ 101. But I'll remember that.

Well you’re not the brightest bulb on the Christmas tree.