Rick Barnes discussion (merged)

[scooty_vol]

Lazy describes your attention and understanding of the game, if your words are a reflection of your thoughts.

Lol. Comedy. Results speak from themselves

 

[kckempf]

Lol. Comedy.

Honestly you didn't have to respond unless you had anything to say, and you in fact had nothing to say.

 

[DuckInAPen]

Agree. Him retiring on his own time would be best. The problem is some coaches egos won’t let them retire until they’ve run the program into the ground. And before you know it the recruiting starts to fall off. If recruiting starts to fall off he may force our hand

That's a fair qualification. Our recruiting, though, is the best it's ever been, so I see no sign that we're nearing that point.

 

[knoxvol52]

Rick Barnes will leave on his on terms retirement and it most likely won't happen for a few more years people get over it it is not your or my decision.I personally think Barnes has done a great job of resurrecting this school in basketball

 

[UTFanHades]

I am fairly certain Mike Hamilton, Lane Kiffin, Derek Dooley, Butch Jones, Pruitt and a multitude of others are the reasons why our football team sucked for 20 years...I am 60% sure Volnation members had nothing to do with it....

Our dang fans made those bad hire, didn’t recruit well, and missed those tackles and blocks. Anybody who blames the fans probably thinks Pat Forde is a prolific sports writer. It’s perfectly reasonable for fans to demand more (see what that’s done for the level of basketball in this conference the last decade). I guess these guys wish we had continued to sit and take it and Schiano was coaching here.

 

[Jax_Vol]

He did.
But in a game like that you have to trust your SEC POY...... I get it if it's Mid January, but when all the marbles are on the table you have to let your stones hang.

Ha. Yeah, if he had fouled out on a terrible call 30 seconds into OT, then you would still be complaining about that.

When we hired Rick, I said that was a horrible decision. Of course, coming after Donnie, we needed a man with a solid reputation.

Looking back five years later, I was wrong. Rick has been great for Tennessee basketball.

To win in NCAA tourney, you must have strong guard play. Without Zig, we don't have that.

Therefore, Rick has satisfied my expectations. I don't see any way to beat Duke without a true point guard. Hope I'm wrong again.

 

[UTFanHades]

Was that Poli Joe having an epic meltdown?

Edit: it was. Starts out demanding that Basilio answer his question about extending Barnes for a year, YES or NO!!! He ends by calling Barnes an a** hole. Barnes might not coach they way a lot of people would like, but an a-hole? Come on, Man.

That guy is unhinged. He has a carpet cleaning biz that he used to advertise on Basilio. I wouldn’t let him anywhere near my house even if he offered to do it for free. Something is not right with him.

I don’t know much about Poli, but don’t agree with his thoughts on Barnes. I do know he was very kind to Roger and that goes a long way with me in terms of character. I’m not going drinking with him though.

 

[mr.checkerboards]

Ha. Yeah, if he had fouled out on a terrible call 30 seconds into OT, then you would still be complaining about that.

When we hired Rick, I said that was a horrible decision. Of course, coming after Donnie, we needed a man with a solid reputation.

Looking back five years later, I was wrong. Rick has been great for Tennessee basketball.

To win in NCAA tourney, you must have strong guard play. Without Zig, we don't have that.

Therefore, Rick has satisfied my expectations. I don't see any way to beat Duke without a true point guard. Hope I'm wrong again.

I would be complaining about the call, not Rick's decision.

 

[UTFanHades]

Not calling for his head but this idea when Barnes is gone the program will fall off a cliff and we'll have to settle for a no name is ridiculous. Don't ask me who I would hire. That's Danny Whites job.

This-if we can’t hire someone good post-Barnes retirement, it means either Barnes let the program slide, White failed to make a good hire, or both. It’s possible to want better results, want Barnes to retire here, and be positive that UT basketball is here to stay post Rick

 

[bleedingTNorange]

Hes got to quit sitting guys with 2 fouls.
If Vesco gets 2 and he does it against Duke we might be down 25

I think a lot of that was game flow, we extended the lead with Vescovi out, why risk it? Had we gotten down or tight game maybe he would’ve inserted him, he has before.

 

[DuckInAPen]

Yeah coaches will be nervous about a possible $5 million salary.

We reportedly brought much more to the table than that during our last three searches for a football coach, and we struck out every time. Someone will coach for $5mil, but a surefire coach will command more than a high salary.

 

[VolFreakJosh]

Yeah coaches will be nervous about a possible $5 million salary.

It’s not always about money

 

[mr.checkerboards]

I think a lot of that was game flow, we extended the lead with Vescovi out, why risk it? Had we gotten down or tight game maybe he would’ve inserted him, he has before.

We finally did late, but what about when Louisana tied it at 19 at the under 4? It was Rocky right then.

 

[scooty_vol]

Honestly you didn't have to respond unless you had anything to say, and you in fact had nothing to say.

Sometimes you can only laugh when people stupid comments about "lazy" comments

 

[VolGee4]

It’s not always about money

Not anymore. Every reasonable-sized program has money. A coach making 3-4.5 million already and comfortable is not moving for 5. The only ones that will are the ones looking to reset at a new place, and that means they probably aren’t performing at a high level.

 

[UTFanHades]

I’m thinking probabilistically, not deterministically. Our program is not a blue blood so there’s no guarantee we could get anyone better than Barnes. The best coaches will likely go elsewhere if given the choice. Heck, it took a lot of convincing and a raise for us to even keep Barnes from going to UCLA. All I’m saying is that IMO the probability of us getting a coach better than Barnes is very low.

Bama/aTm/Mizzou/Vandy/Auburn/Ole Miss are even lower programs than UT and made good hires. Granted, Auburn hired a less than ethical coach and Ole Miss made a deal with the devil. Arky is probably a more historic program and they hired a good coach. Barnes is going to have a lot of competition his last few years and the wins won’t come as easy as they have been. He’s going to have to really want it to leave the program in the shape he built it. If those schools can get a quality coach-so can we. With the arms race our conference is in (especially when Texas joins for basketball), we don’t have a choice. I’m not advocating hiring a Oats/Beard type guy, but we’ll either hire a good coach and continue the program or slip into UGA/UF/USCjr territory.

 

[RockyTop140]

I think a lot of that was game flow, we extended the lead with Vescovi out, why risk it? Had we gotten down or tight game maybe he would’ve inserted him, he has before.

Switching to zone and using our athletic line up allowed us to go on a run to close the first half. I can’t remember what defense we were in for the second half, but I’m assuming it was still zone and they just made adjustments.

 

[ColinS]

It’s not always about money

Right. This will be an attractive job after Rick's time is over because he will be leaving it in good shape. If the financial commitment stays here they will be picking us instead of us picking them.

 

[ColinS]

Switching to zone and using our athletic line up allowed us to go on a run to close the first half. I can’t remember what defense we were in for the second half, but I’m assuming it was still zone and they just made adjustments.

I think having a guy like Awaka to hunt the rebound down has got CRB fidgeting with a zone. We have experimented with it in the past but couldn't rebound out of it.

 

[Jax_Vol]

Bama/aTm/Mizzou/Vandy/Auburn/Ole Miss are even lower programs than UT and made good hires. Granted, Auburn hired a less than ethical coach and Ole Miss made a deal with the devil. Arky is probably a more historic program and they hired a good coach. Barnes is going to have a lot of competition his last few years and the wins won’t come as easy as they have been. He’s going to have to really want it to leave the program in the shape he built it. If those schools can get a quality coach-so can we. With the arms race our conference is in (especially when Texas joins for basketball), we don’t have a choice. I’m not advocating hiring a Oats/Beard type guy, but we’ll either hire a good coach and continue the program or slip into UGA/UF/USCjr territory.

The gators had to hire a kid who was the team ball boy for some middle school.

 

[Jax_Vol]

I think a lot of that was game flow, we extended the lead with Vescovi out, why risk it? Had we gotten down or tight game maybe he would’ve inserted him, he has before.

Ding Ding Ding......that is exactly the strategy I was thinking from my sofa.

Loved it when UL left Brown in first half with two fouls. Wanted someone to charge right at him with the ball to see if we could catch a lucky call from the officials.

 

[bleedingTNorange]

We finally did late, but what about when Louisana tied it at 19 at the under 4? It was Rocky right then.

And we went in up 11, so clearly was the right move.

 

[mr.checkerboards]

And we went in up 11, so clearly was the right move.

Would you be saying that if they were down or tied? What about up 5?

 

[bleedingTNorange]

Would you be saying that if they were down or tied? What about up 5?

Not if we were down, and probably not tied…as soon as they tied it we went on a big run, no need to bring him back in. Like I said he’s played Santi with 2 fouls in the first half this season, there was no need to last night.

 

[UTFanHades]

The gators had to hire a kid who was the team ball boy for some middle school.

So is Rick or Danny White going to be the person responsible for hiring a coach like that when the other 6 schools I mentioned hired good coaches relative to where their programs are? Also-are we writing off the Florida coach in year one? Not sure that’s fair and I don’t see him as any worse than Mike White. This coach beat our team and Mike White couldn’t manage that.