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[nicksjuzunk]

Ummm…. There was a helmet on the ground and mistakes were made so…. Vanderbilt now

 

[Big Orange#1]

Heupel is going to try to put a 100 on him next year.

He’ll have to just to have a chance to win if we keep Banks & Martinez

 

[RikidyBones]

This is actually incorrect now. They changed the league formats and development system years ago so that more people without money could play. It is a big reason we have such a talented young team now. It gave many of them opportunities that weren’t there before. But this was within the last ten years or so. Biggest issue I have with US soccer now is not taking it seriously. Our coach is very average and we took over a year to hire him. If they were serious, they would have paid big bucks for a proven coach. But they went cheap and the easy route because we don’t soccer seriously as a country.

To play the game it is cheap af. Need a ball and four backpacks or other items that you could easily steal. Just hire @SergeantVol and his band of gypsy pick pocketing child misfits and they'll get you anything you need. But high end training is tough. I don't think we have the quality programs here.

In regards to this world cup, idk. To me it seems they are trying to get some experience for the next one which is here as opposed to trying to win it over there.

 

[Weezer]

I've never ingested an illegal substance in my entire life, but I'm watching this on loop feeling like I must be on something. What in the actual F?

Well, you don't sound very fun.

 

[Billy Antrim]

I'm not sure I put the blame solely on Banks, but to your overarching point, I don't guess I've really thought about how simple it really is. You're right, every unit on this team has improved from the previous regime, even just from Heupel's first season...

QB- Hooker/Milton both improved
RB- Small/Wright both improved, and we lost Evans
WR- Hyatt/Keyton...massive improvement
TE- Fant/Warren both improved
OL- Probably the biggest transformation
DL- ...some may have an argument, here
LB- Beasley/Mitchell both improved
CB-
S-

It's easy to see where the problems lie on paper. Neither of those backend units have improved a lick. And talent can't be an excuse because we didn't have a ton of talent at any of those other positions, either, yet they found a way to make passable units out of all of them but the secondary.

So the blame comes down to two ideas. Is Martinez just not developing these guys, motivating them to want to do more film study, inspiring them to be better? Or is it the scheme that he is being tasked with trying to put these guys in by his boss (Banks)? Or is it both?

In either case, it's pretty easy to narrow the focus of our struggle down to two people. And frankly, someone has to answer for what happened, Saturday, at some point.

How are the coaches supposed to "improve" speed at CB & S? The only way I know of is by recruiting & transfers for next year.

 

[nicksjuzunk]

other fanbases (SEC and from other conferences) throw this kind of stuff in our faces all the time and talk about how we're the worst behaved fanbase in college football

It’s really just about every fan base. Alcohol and strength in numbers reveal terrible characteristics

 

[RikidyBones]

Our development system used to be very expensive . When I played ODP (Olympic development player), it was very expensive and very political. Even club ball used to be outrageous. You traveled the country playing and it was all out of pocket.

Top end travel ball was harsh. I never got into cross country travel but we went throughout the southeast. Alot of tournaments occured here in Florida and Georgia so didn't have to travel far.

 

[volbeast33]

This is actually incorrect now. They changed the league formats and development system years ago so that more people without money could play. It is a big reason we have such a talented young team now. It gave many of them opportunities that weren’t there before. But this was within the last ten years or so. Biggest issue I have with US soccer now is not taking it seriously. Our coach is very average and we took over a year to hire him. If they were serious, they would have paid big bucks for a proven coach. But they went cheap and the easy route because we don’t soccer seriously as a country.

I hope they have made the correct changes… they need to put some money into it for sure.

 

[peaygolf]

Are you peay'd off?

It's expected...... No respect. It comes with time

 

[Jackcrevol]

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I know this isnt worthy of my best gif, but, i'm feelin' it today...

 

[BigOrange15]

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[Weezer]

Yeah people talk when you go out and completely embarrass yourself as a program.

Well, not enough people are talking about Florida losing to Vandy.

 

[BigOrange15]

Our development system used to be very expensive . When I played ODP (Olympic development player), it was very expensive and very political. Even club ball used to be outrageous. You traveled the country playing and it was all out of pocket.

Thank you (all), the second half of that sounds kind of like how baseball is becoming tbh. With camps and travel ball and paying for instructors, its becoming unreachable by a lot of people.

 

[cHiZzLeVOL]

Thus far, the best thing that Kiffin does is destroy programs. Watch where Ole Miss goes from here.

I mean they were in the gutter before him…. So….

 

[cncchris33]

How are the coaches supposed to "improve" speed at CB & S? The only way I know of is by recruiting & transfers for next year.

Well, I'm not sure they can do a ton to improve speed, but if speed were the only component necessary to play football, we'd just recruit straight off of the track team.

We aren't a bad secondary solely because we are getting blown by on deep routes. That's an oversimplification of our problems. It isn't solely a speed issue. We didn't give up that 3rd-and-20 because our guys weren't fast enough.

 

[Smyrna ATL Vol]

Top end travel ball was harsh. I never got into cross country travel but we went throughout the southeast. Alot of tournaments occured here in Florida and Georgia so didn't have to travel far.

We went everywhere it seemed. Mostly the south… Dallas, Greenville, Pensacola, Jacksonville, Atlanta, Raleigh... It was never ending….

 

[cHiZzLeVOL]

Uh, who pissed in Dani’s Cheerios? What an unwarranted cheap shot. Damn I would love to play those clowns.

I wouldn’t…. Might boat race us like SC

 

[cHiZzLeVOL]

VQ mods seem to believe that Tillman will be out on Saturday.

We’ve sucked when he is in anyways. He can’t even run full speed. Blanketed almost every play.

 

[Smyrna ATL Vol]

Ugghh we made Beamer something for a damn week. I need Clemson to blast them and shut this clown up. He lives for a little spotlight and is an awful coach.

 

[RikidyBones]

We went everywhere it seemed. Mostly the south… Dallas, Greenville, Pensacola, Jacksonville, Atlanta, Raleigh... It was never ending….

Take away Dallas and add Tampa, Orlando and Miami and that looks right for us.

 

[cHiZzLeVOL]

No way that Dabo quote is real. I don’t know how much more emotion I can feel.

Dunno why anyone is mad at him for speaking the truth.

 

[MarcoVol]

I wouldn’t…. Might boat race us like SC

What’s it like living in fear?

 

[cHiZzLeVOL]

What’s it like living in fear?

Lol fear. You are funny. I’m probably one of the few on this board who doesn’t actually live in “Fear” of anything.

 

[peaygolf]

Brock Glenn details his decision to attend Florida State

Haha...............Screw the Buckeyes.

 

[MarcoVol]

Lol fear. You are funny. I’m probably one of the few on this board who doesn’t actually live in “Fear” of anything.

You’re scared of Dabo and Clemson “boat racing” us. You just said as much.