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luthervol said:
lol....
You know me about as well as Bama knows how to defend Hyatt.
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Enki_Amenra said:
So the wins over Mizzou, SC, Candy, are more valuable than the wins over Bama, LSU, UF, Pitt?

I was fairly certain anyone would take an 8-4 season with wins over LSU, Pitt, Florida, and Bama. We are not losing another game this season, I'm fairly certain. However, if we finished 8-4 I would still be happy with the season for what it is, year 2, and the roster we have. Sure, I'd be disappointed with the finish, but I can't discount the wins. It's all assumptions and if this team somehow goes 8-4, then something terrible (injuries, etc) must've happened to account for it.

Either way, I'm not dying on a hill telling people what they should be happy with. Just stating I think it's. . . odd. . . how people can change expectations so easily.
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No, that's not what anyone is saying and is a total mischaracterization of what I said. Beating who you're expected to beat is a minimum requirement. Beating garbage programs is expected. Losing to garbage programs is a major problem.

A loss to Vandy is worse than a loss to Alabama.
That does not mean that a win over Vandy is better than a win over Alabama - and that's not what was said (but it's what you're implying I said). A win over Alabama is astronomically better than a win over Vandy (obviously).... what we are (or I am) trying to point out is that it's not a vacuum dichotomy where you choose a win over Alabama or a win over Vandy and for some strange reason some are "picking" the win over Vandy instead. It's a win over Bama (very good) and a loss to Vandy (very very bad) or a win over Vandy (expected) and a loss to Bama (frustrating but expected preseason).

And that compounds when you factor in real-life where you start 7-0 then lose 4/5 to UK, UGA, Mizzou, USC, and Vandy. Where 3 of those 5 are HORRIBLE losses and 1 (UK) would be absolutely embarassing. So yeah, most people don't like the implication of going 8-4 AFTER a 7-0 start when you consider the losses. It's about the losses, and how they happened, not the wins.

I'm still going to be happy with this season, too, because of what they've done and the fun and joy it's brought back to Tennessee football. There's obvious improvement and positivity. Not sure anyone is saying finishing 8-4 (NOW) would be a failure. What it WOULD be is not finishing where and how we should be at this point.
 
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m1al said:
Nothing wrong with a defensive minded head coach. He just has to be smart enough to hire a high quality offensive coordinator and leave him alone to do his job...
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Just like Heupel let’s the Defensive coaches do their thing and just mentions what needs to be improved on.
 
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Enki_Amenra said:
Hooker processes everything at an extremely high level. He calls his own pass protections on the fly, from play to play.

Hooker stays extremely calm, like it's no big deal to have a minute on the clock and need to go the length of the field.
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Or 15 seconds. Hooker be like...
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SoilVol said:
No, that's not what anyone is saying and is a total mischaracterization of what I said. Beating who you're expected to beat is a minimum requirement. Beating garbage programs is expected. Losing to garbage programs is a major problem.

A loss to Vandy is worse than a loss to Alabama.
That does not mean that a win over Vandy is better than a win over Alabama - and that's not what was said (but it's what you're implying I said). A win over Alabama is astronomically better than a win over Vandy (obviously).... what we are (or I am) trying to point out is that it's not a vacuum dichotomy where you choose a win over Alabama or a win over Vandy and for some strange reason some are "picking" the win over Vandy instead. It's a win over Bama (very good) and a loss to Vandy (very very bad) or a win over Vandy (expected) and a loss to Bama (frustrating but expected preseason).

And that compounds when you factor in real-life where you start 7-0 then lose 4/5 to UK, UGA, Mizzou, USC, and Vandy. Where 3 of those 5 are HORRIBLE losses and 1 (UK) would be absolutely embarassing. So yeah, most people don't like the implication of going 8-4 AFTER a 7-0 start when you consider the losses. It's about the losses, and how they happened, not the wins.

I'm still going to be happy with this season, too, because of what they've done and the fun and joy it's brought back to Tennessee football. There's obvious improvement and positivity. Not sure anyone is saying finishing 8-4 (NOW) would be a failure. What it WOULD be is not finishing where and how we should be at this point.
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Also I agree
 
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Enki_Amenra said:
I'm sure it won't happen. But in the bigger picture, 8-4 would still be a success with the wins we have. We're not losing a game this year, but even if we finish 8-4, it would still be a success for y2.

I mean, if we were 8-4, would you rather it be with wins over SC & Mizzou or Florida and Alabama?
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Totally get what you are saying here. At this point I don’t think 8-4 is realistic as long as we protect Hooker. Hooker is playing out of his mind fantastic right now. He knows this offense backwards and forwards and that is allowing him to react quickly and get the most out of each play. If we can keep him upright and heathy then the sky is the limit.
 
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m1al said:
Nothing wrong with a defensive minded head coach. He just has to be smart enough to hire a high quality offensive coordinator and leave him alone to do his job...
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Talent evaluation is key. And knowing you have to identify talent that can score points. You can’t just recruit off a defensive perspective all the time. If a kid wants to play Rb & you see him as a player, hell, recruit him as a RB.

Charles Davis came in a class with 8 QBs. All dreamed of being the QB at Tennessee until they saw Tony Robinson throw. 7 were outside Majors door want to change positions after 1st practice. I think all 7 played elsewhere
 
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And if the band you're in starts playing different tunes I'll see you on the dark (mode) side of the moon –

rocktopper16 said:
Chatt. Could you do an analysis on how our defense has saw so many snaps it’s basically added another game into our schedule. I think that’s why our passing offense (assume you meant defense) is so low.
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When everything is going so good a lot of folks don’t like to hear that maybe there is an area that we really need to work on. We have a lot of strengths on our team (staff & players), rushing offense, passing offense, 3rd down offense, redzone offense, 1-minute offense, 2-minute offense, 4-minute offense, run defense, 3rd down defense, redzone defense, special teams, etc. Pass defense is simply not one of the stand-out strengths of our team this year. We’ve lost bodies so our ability to play a lot of guys (like upfront) has been very limited. Additionally some of the guys we are playing have limited experience. Christian Charles for example was a high school QB. He played a few snaps at safety last year until his injury but as far as I know he’s only played 7 games at CB in his entire football life. Anyway, I think we’ll get better. I won’t be surprised to see some of the incoming 2023 freshmen DBs in the lineup next year. jmo.

Heupel talked about our pass defense on this week’s SEC teleconference and then again Wednesday night on Vol Calls. It’s the one area of our team that from a performance perspective lags behind the breakout performances of every other area of our team. I’m not really worried about it because I do believe that in due time it will catch up to the performance standard Heupel has set for the rest of the team. jmo.

Forget about yards and number of plays and think about first downs. We give up an average of 16 first downs per game via the pass. Our 3rd down defense is pretty good (29th in the nation) so we’re just giving up a lot of first downs via the pass, often on early downs. If we gave up half as many first downs via the pass all else being equal it would likely have a night and day difference in the perception and ranking of our overall defense because as you point out our defense would likely be on the field for fewer plays. jmo.

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Georgia leads the conference in limiting first downs via the pass (of course they haven’t played us yet) at 42.24% of completions allowed; we’re at #11 in the SEC with 55.72% of completions allowed going for a first down. Alabama (who has played us) is giving up 46.31% completions for first downs. They’re 4th best in the conference in this metric. Our pass defense just needs to win around 8 more plays per game to surge up the rankings. Heupel says it’s a little bit of everything and I’m pretty confident it will improve as he continues to rebuild our football team. We may just need to give him a bit more time in this one particular area. jmo.


tnhunter 10 said:
What is your score prediction according to the metrics you use?
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Brian Fremeau tracks points per possession (drive) for FBS vs FBS teams (he doesn’t include FCS opponents). Against FBS opponents we are scoring 3.92 points per possession; Kentucky is scoring 2.19 points per possession against FBS opponents.

Last year against Kentucky we each had 11 possessions. It’s expected by many to be similar this year. It may not work out that way but that seems to be the general expectation. Heupel has said a number of times this week that possessions in this game will be limited.

So this is the math:

Tennessee - 11 X 3.92 = 43.12

Kentucky – 11 X 2.19 = 24.09
 
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smokeyhuntsgators said:
The scariest part of our explosive offense is the fact we’ve been this productive and efficient without Tillman..Just wait until he comes back..😳😳 The defenses of the SEC have their hands full as it is but adding Tillman will make it even more challenging..lol..Good luck with that!! We are/will be unbeatable!!

15-0

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Totally agree, but getting a dynamic RB and a TE that actually threatens the defense are still missing. Imagine what Kamara would have done in this offense 😳😳. Hoping Sampson and the TE in this years class can fill that void.
 
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HoleInTheRoof said:
It’s like some of you go out of your way to make the individual recruit threads unreadable.
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I know he's not talking about me. First, all of my posts are readable. I mean, unless they're a gif, then they're watchable. And second, he supposedly has me on ignore so he doesn't even see my posts.
 
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