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MarcoVol said:
Quick question on this - why is anyone asking Heupel about the barrel or rivalries with trophies? Not his job and who gives a sh*t man we’re gearing up for a championship run.

And asking him about Jermaine Burton. Whoever asked these questions is terrible at their job. All those things are outside noise.
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It’s the media… probably shouldn’t have high expectations for most of those people.
 
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UTMVol76 said:
And when he mocks you, he's really mocking us
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BigSteve09 said:
I agree with what you are saying.

My issue with Heisman voting on the whole is that they already decided that Stroud was the favorite before the season even started. Like the Top 25 polls, they just pick a favorite before anyone takes a snap and leave them there until they slip up.

If we beat Georgia then Hooker probably wins the Heisman. Other than that, Stroud is just going to win because 1) he was the preseason favorite, 2) he is the Ohio State starting QB, 3) Ohio St should be heavy favorites for the rest of the season and he will put up monster stats, on who does not matter to the majority of the old school voters, 4) He only has to beat Michigan to win it, 5) Hooker had to beat Bama, has to beat UGA, will have to win the SEC to win it.
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HH has 3 more really great chances to prove he should get the Heisman. UK, UGA, SEC champ game.

We’re only 7 games into the season.
 
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RiseToTheTop said:
ahh the narrative that we are sleeping are on somebody. Knew that was coming.

nobody in that football building is sleeping on this game lol
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Yes, I’ve heard what seems like a thousand media people bring this up. And really, it’s because that’s Kentucky’s only chance. If we don’t come out and lay an egg, we’ll win by at least ten points.
 
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MarcoVol said:
HH has 3 more really great chances to prove he should get the Heisman. UK, UGA, SEC champ game.

We’re only 7 games into the season.
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Also Hooker not winning the heisman will only put him in that Jordan grindset after Karl Malone won the MVP in 97. We'll play Ohio State in the natty and hooker will end up with the trophy that means more
 
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SergeantVol said:
Happy Belated Birthday, Doc!!!
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Didn’t announce it until after it happened…as you get older, you don’t want to jinx the next day by assuming it’ll be there.
Waking up on the right side of the dirt’s always a good day. 🤠 Especially when everyday is another day of Volunteer football glory!!!
 
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MoCo_Vol said:
Ultimately I think Hesiman voters will see who Hooker beat and how he played against them and that'll matter more than total stats.

Hendo vs top 25
@ Pitt: 64.3% 352 total yards 2 total TDs 0 ints
vs UF: 78.6% 461 total yards 3 total TDs 0 ints
@ LSU: 63.0% 295 total yards 2 total TDs 0 ints
vs Bama: 70.0% 441 total yards 5 total TDs 1 int

CJ Stroud vs top 25
vs ND: 70.6% 224 total yards 2 total TDs 1 int

Hendo will face 2 or 3 more top 25 teams before the regular season is over (depending on how South Carolina plays before our matchup with them, which they should be able to beat Missouri & Vandy).

CJ Stroud will face just 2 top 25 teams (Penn State & Michigan) the only other team that could be top 25 he'll face is Maryland.

So when the voting happens Hendo will have faced 6 or 7 top 25 teams vs CJ facing 3 or 4. If the numbers are close I think it's pretty reasonable to think Hooker wins it.

Current totals
Hendo: 70.6% 2093 passing yards 18 TDs 1 INT 315 rushing yards 3 TDs
Stroud: 70.0% 2023 passing yards 28 TDs 4 INTs -9 rushing yards 0 TDs
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there's context that i wonder how much voters will consider as well. such as...overall roster talent around each QB....advantage who? the one with the most talent, or the one that did more with less? then there's the "what was supposed to happen"....meaning, OSD came in as a top 3 team, Stroud as a pre season heisman favorite, not just candidate, vs TN not ranked, and at best HH was a pre season heisman dark horse. you mention the schedule and who did what, against who.

but lastly, and this is the one that i have no idea what voters will do with, but if HH doesn't win it, will have most TN fans ready to revolt...is the context of the wins in terms of where TN's program is, vs. where it's been. it's not just that we beat UF, LSU, and Bama, it's the context of those games....ending significant losing streaks in all three that i just don't think anyone thought we could do. end 1 or maybe 2...but all three? nobody saw that coming.

and as far as heisman moments...i mean....the Florida game, with the throw at the end of the half to Keyton, the huge run in the 3rd qtr, just making people look silly. the LSU game...just freaking consistent. timely runs, big throws, but i don't know there was a "moment" in that game. and Alabama....dude, the guy gets, what, 50 yards in 2 pass plays to set up the game winning FG against in :13? is there a bigger moment than that?

and off the field...slam dunk. kid is an awesome human being on top of being what he is on the field.

honestly, i don't really care what Stroud does. even if we lose to UGA, HH's resume is still loads better. if stroud wins it, it is because he wont it in the off season. there are heisman voters that aren't going to vote for HH for whatever reason. some of them won't have watched all his games. and some just made their mind up because stroud was the favorite going in, and he won't "lose" it during the season. some will use the bama game against him in terms of all the "mistakes" bama made, others will say "yeah, but what if he didn't have that hyatt kid to throw to" ....lol. all a guise to justify who they were going to vote for before the season started anyway.

but like has been the case with most heisman trophy winners since 1997, it's doubtful all of them actually earned it. be the best player on the best team....and this year, that's CJ Stroud....right? :)

i'm fully anticipating a runner up, at best, again. and we can use this is our nut kick for the season and as our reason for being angry about something....

and i'll just say if the worst thing that's happened this season is having a heisman runner up.............things are OK........
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Orange College Football Teams Are Having A Moment

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Two weeks ago, an orange crush of more than 100,000 fans converged on Neyland Stadium after the Tennessee Volunteers toppled the Alabama Crimson Tide on a last-second field goal. It was perhaps the most indelible image of the season yet — a status that lasted about an hour before it was one-upped by those same fans discarding the stadium goal post in the Tennessee River.

But Knoxville isn’t the only campus experiencing an orange surge. Nine weeks into the 2022 season, it’s shaping up to be a banner season for one of the brightest colors on the visible spectrum: orange.
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Two of the five ranked matchups this past weekend pitted an orange university against another orange university. Two teams in the top five of the AP Poll1 claim orange as a primary color, as do three other programs in the top 25.2 Orange represents two of the three highest-scoring offenses in the country and the nation’s stingiest defense. Two of the seven players with shorter than +4500 odds to win the Heisman Trophy, according to FanDuel, are also part of the orange renaissance.
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Furthermore, many of the biggest storylines in the sport seem inextricably linked to the color. Clemson has the second-best odds of any team to reach the playoff, according to our model.3 Tennessee is 7-0 for the first time since Tee Martin led the Vols to the 1998 national championship. Illinois sits atop the Big Ten West standings and is off to its best start since 1953. Syracuse, a team literally nicknamed after the color, had its best start since 1987 before losing a close one on the road at Clemson. Oklahoma State recently set a school record with its 13th consecutive home victory and has a 15 percent shot to represent the Big 12 in the playoff according to our model. Oregon State is receiving votes and is already bowl-eligible, a feat it’s only reached once since 2014. Bowling Green State has already matched its season-best win total since 2016. The UTSA Roadrunners have proven last season’s 12-win campaign wasn’t a fluke and currently lead Conference USA standings. Even Texas’ seeming inability to win one-score games under coach Steve Sarkisian can relish its series-best 49-point victory over archrival Oklahoma.4
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