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[drvenner]

@drvenner
Just because..
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Thank you!! Made me smile!!

 

[you]

I’m surprised Josh Dobbs ain’t getting a real chance to start in the NFL. Some teams putting some scrubs out there. Heck, he’s probably a better option in Cleveland

 

[NighthawkVol]

First time I’ve ever watched these and wow seems obvious he was gonna be legit.

And just looked back at his recruitment. Guess GT got on him early. Bama, LSU, FL, etc came after him but he stayed committed. So maybe they all knew he was gonna be good then

Right? I didn't understand it at the time and don't get it now. You don't have to be a skilled evaluator to see that this kid was/is a stud. At RB.

Pruitt wanted him as a CB and I don't know what the others wanted him to play, but I also don't know how "committable" their offers were. I think Florida was the closest to flipping him from GT, so their interest was legit. I was scared they would.

 

[Enki_Amenra]

 

[bigl3327]

I remember watching Gibbs' Hudl film and thinking, "this dude is a future All American RB." And I'm not a coach. I was ticked that we didn't get him because Pruitt thought he was a CB.

You are correct that those other coaches whiffed on him too, but I don't know what they were looking at. It looked pretty obvious to me.

I mean, just watch the film...

Other coaches didn't necessarily whiff. They were late to the party and he stayed loyal to his commitment to Georgia Tech. Pruitt was the exception. He recruited him early and aggressively, but told him he wasn't a college RB. Then the kid set the world on fire his senior year. It was almost like Pruitt put a big chip on dude's shoulder to prove him wrong. He never gave UT another chance.

 

[wmcovol]

Look I don’t like Pruitt but Saban didn’t see it either. Or Kirby. Or Day. Or Dabo. Or Lincoln Riley.

Unless you think Gibbs chose GT over Bama when they were both offering a spot in the RB room.

Those coaches all signed higher rated guys. Now, those aren’t as high now but that’s a different argument. Pruitt didn’t even see him as a RB.

 

[drvenner]

I’ll tase you, bro. ️

You can then check my resistance with your ohm meter.

 

[UTMVol76]

This is assuming R-Sr and Seniors all leave (which some may return with covid year)

Defense loses: Flowers, McCollugh, Burrell, Young, Beasley, Roman, Mitchell, Bumphus, Banks, Page III, Garland
Offense loses: Hooker, Tillman, Crawford, Wright, Carvin, Keyton, Fant, Warren
Special Teams: Brooks & McGrath

Next year will be a step back year, this roster may not be full of talent but the bulk of our starters will be gone on both sides of the ball and that's a lot of attrition to overcome in one season. Still think we win 8 games, but I'm definitely not going to expect us to get to the Georgia game undefeated.

A bunch of those guys will be back with the Covid year. I know in particular AP has said Warren, Beasley, and Wright are a few examples that could be back (however we all know Wright is going pro). That said, it won’t be as bad as that list looks.

 

[drvenner]

Seems like an ohmeter would be for measuring “ohs”. Ohmmeters on the other hand…..

You never take the path of least resistance, do you?

 

[Nash_Vol97]

You wanna see how controlling Heupel is with his schemes and how well Hooker executes, watch the short touchdown pass to Hyatt in the flat versus Bama. The scheme pulls the entire defense to the left. Hooker executes by giving just a little attention to the left before turning to throw to Hyatt. Hyatt goes mostly unnoticed by the defense and left basically 1on1 with a defender trying to catch up.

I didn't notice the little details in the scheme when it happened, but it's pure beauty to rewatch and see how our guys are executing and how good Heupel is at scheming plays.

*play is @ :35 seconds in the video:

Yup. This was the one I mentioned to you in a comment a week back or so about being my favorite play design that Heupel has done yet. The look that 3/4 of the Bama defense gave like “wtf” after that play was amazing. Also, Bru absolutely trucking one of the refs over the middle was icing on the cake

 

[drvenner]

Quit acting like a child.



Wait, never mind, we are still in the Recruiting Forum.

 

[BigSteve09]

I think they're onto us

I feel like that 1Q O14 is at worst a push, but probably gets hit.

I like the 1st Half Vols -7 though

 

[volbeast33]

I don't think we have a qualifier for an outlier. The least amount of passing yards we've given up was to Akron (241). If we averaged that (241) our passing yards allowed would rank #88 in the nation so we just don't do a good job limiting passing yards. On a brighter note we're 45th at allowing passing TDs.

In opponent's 1st downs we're ranked #11 at allowing 1st downs by the run (41 total) and #130 at allowing first downs by the pass (112).

On still a brighter note - ESPN ranks our special teams efficiency as 12th best in the nation. Kentucky's special teams rank #111 and Georgia's special teams rank #119. That gives us another edge to go along with our offense and run defense. My preference would be a rematch with LSU in Atlanta because we know we can stop their run-oriented offense plus their special teams rank #129. Ohio State, who we could see as a future playoff opponent, has a special teams ranking of #128.

In the table I posted there were other teams ranked, even undefeated, that also give up a lot of passing yards so it's not the end all and be all. In any event I think we're #3 in the Nation in the AP poll not just because we're popular. We have the qualifications relative to everyone else for the ranking.. We have to win the next two to make a claim for a higher ranking. jmo.

When Heupel took over…… he said that you can’t judge his defense by yards given up bc he expected to give up a lot with our style of play…. He said that he judges his defense by negative plays caused, turnovers created, red zone defense…. Judging by that criteria, I feel that our defense has played good in every game except Florida, and Alabama. What do you think about that?

 

[drvenner]

Hubbs dresses like me LOL

We don't care how you dress, brah, just so long as you stay dressed.

 

[Sugaray13]

I remember watching Gibbs' Hudl film and thinking, "this dude is a future All American RB." And I'm not a coach. I was ticked that we didn't get him because Pruitt thought he was a CB.

You are correct that those other coaches whiffed on him too, but I don't know what they were looking at. It looked pretty obvious to me.

I mean, just watch the film...

I can definitely see why Pruitt did not think he could be a great running back!!

 

[UTMVol76]

We don't care how you dress, brah, just so long as you stay dressed.

That’s not what you said before. Don’t be ashamed now.

 

[BigSteve09]

Quit acting like a child.



Wait, never mind, we are still in the Recruiting Forum.

 

[Nash_Vol97]

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I don’t love the 1Q options this week. Halftime spread is the only one out of any of those that I’d consider.

 

[Enki_Amenra]

I hate man city.

 

[jordan4vols]

Where is all this talk coming from how Kentucky won’t give up explosive plays? Literally the majority of our explosive plays came against them last year. Their defense does not scare me at all.

 

[Johnny Majors' Ghost]

 

[Enki_Amenra]

I don’t love the 1Q options this week. Halftime spread is the only one out of any of those that I’d consider.

I like the o31 1st half total.

 

[Enki_Amenra]

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That looks good!

 

[Ace]

I am 58 years old. I attended several games in the 1998 season. Three years ago I thought I would never see the Vols challenge for any type of title in a my lifetime. Pruitt had us and me that down.
I am choosing to enjoy every minute of this season. I do not care what players we lose next year. I do not care who gets awards or post season recognition. I just want the Vols to win and shut everybody else up.
15-0!!!!
Go Vols!!!!

 

[Enki_Amenra]

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