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VolGee4 said:
Did you see the Louisville player’s response to a called strike? He wasn’t ejected.

Telling us to reign it in? Put on more steam.
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Exactly.

There you have it. Which continually proves the point. The NCAA and SEC do not apply their rules on level playing fields - period. They are selective. The umps, and officials in others sports, then proceed to do what they are told when performing their jobs. That makes them complicit in the corruption. They hide under ump's or official's discretion to make calls. It's still corruption because it is not uniform treatment.

The obvious thing to do was issue a warning. This is the player's last season and he may not be able to play in the team's last game. It is not MLB where you get 162 games a year. If he violates the warning - throw him out. Since he was hitting, declare him out and move on. If it's the pitcher doing it - award first base to the batter. Get an unsportsmanlike in football - penalty, no ejection. You need two to be ejected. Same in basketball - two techs if just mouthing off before ejection. It's time to use some dang common sense. But if they do, it removes their abilities to influence outcomes.

Which is THE problem.
 
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Just watched a video where James Franklin at Penn State is whining about needing more NIL money in order to compete.

I love that Tennessee doesn't have this problem. And not only that, we are the ones dictating the terms. We are making the big boys play our game and they are freaking out about it.
 
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Vols4us said:
Exactly.

There you have it. Which continually proves the point. The NCAA and SEC do not apply their rules on level playing fields - period. They are selective. The umps, and officials in others sports, then proceed to do what they are told when performing their jobs. That makes them complicit in the corruption. They hide under ump's or official's discretion to make calls. It's still corruption because it is not uniform treatment.

The obvious thing to do was issue a warning. This is the player's last season and he may not be able to play in the team's last game. It is not MLB where you get 162 games a year. If he violates the warning - throw him out. Since he was hitting, declare him out and move on. If it's the pitcher doing it - award first base to the batter. Get an unsportsmanlike in football - penalty, no ejection. You need two to be ejected. Same in basketball - two techs if just mouthing off before ejection. It's time to use some dang common sense. But if they do, it removes their abilities to influence outcomes.

Which is THE problem.
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Read that the umps had already warned him
 
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I missed last night’s game.

My 8u son’s baseball team had their championship game. It was, without a doubt, the best baseball game I’ve ever seen played. Just amazing. Team we faced averaged 18 runs. Held them to 4 through 5 innings. We have had an up and down year. Came into our own in the tourney. We held on to a 5-4 lead from the second. Lost 6-5 in the final inning. Just incredible plays being made by little dudes all over the field on both sides. Not only that, both squads had great parents. After the game, we just all realized how special that was.

Truly special moment. Little league baseball is awesome when parents don’t ruin it.
 
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MarcoVol said:
Read that the umps had already warned him
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It was his first AB - when? Before the game? It had not happened yet. If that is correct it only proves the point they were targeted in advance, yet, did not do the same with other teams.

I agree that he and others should channel the rage into being better at playing the game. But that was ridiculous.
 
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Vols4us said:
It was his first AB - when? Before the game? It had not happened yet. If that is correct it only proves the point they were targeted in advance, yet, did not do the same with other teams.

I agree that he and others should channel the rage into being better at playing the game. But that was ridiculous.
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Wasn't his first at bat.

As for the situation, I can see the ejection being justified. Drew knows better. The rule of being suspended a game though, that rule is stupid as hell.
 
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drvenner said:
Disappointing night for sure. I still have faith we are going to win it all. Need Dolander to be dominate today.
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Just hope the staff learned to keep the ball down. ND is obviously a high pitch hitting team. They can't just slop it up there and expect to win. Glad Dolander is starting because he is a complete pitcher.
 
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Vols4us said:
Focus and take revenge. Celebrate Vol style after whipping dat azz.
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I'm actually super calm about today. I see a win and it not even being close. ND played a perfect game yesterday and needed a lot of breaks to go their way, and still if the Vols cash in on their early chances it's at least 10-8.
 
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VolGee4 said:
I was looking back at ND’s regional, and Texas Tech’s 3rd base coach got suspended 7 games for arguing balls and strikes and bumping an umpire. It ain’t just us. It appears college baseball might have a problem. Just like basketball, it’s incompetence in officiating games.
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The only sport I watch closely is college football, and the officiating is obviously bad. I assume it's equally bad in other college sports. Reasons may include inadequate training, low pay (low incentive), unconscious bias, probably some intentional bias. With the amount being bet on big contests, I'd be very surprised if there's not an element of corruption.

IMO the solution, at least for sports that can afford it, is to pay them better, train them better, and have a robust oversight apparatus to grade results by game and over time, and remove the bad officials. Officiating teams should be drawn from a national pool rather than having conference officials, IMO.
 
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drvenner said:
Disappointing night for sure. I still have faith we are going to win it all. Need Dolander to be dominate today.
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I'm actually super calm about today. I see a win and it not even being close. ND played a perfect game yesterday and needed a lot of breaks to go their way, and still if the Vols cash in on their early chances it's at least 10-8.
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We were gonna lose at least one game. Chances were just too high. Better to lose that one poo game, this team plays better when pressure is on.
 
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Vols4us said:
Exactly.

There you have it. Which continually proves the point. The NCAA and SEC do not apply their rules on level playing fields - period. They are selective. The umps, and officials in others sports, then proceed to do what they are told when performing their jobs. That makes them complicit in the corruption. They hide under ump's or official's discretion to make calls. It's still corruption because it is not uniform treatment.

The obvious thing to do was issue a warning. This is the player's last season and he may not be able to play in the team's last game. It is not MLB where you get 162 games a year. If he violates the warning - throw him out. Since he was hitting, declare him out and move on. If it's the pitcher doing it - award first base to the batter. Get an unsportsmanlike in football - penalty, no ejection. You need two to be ejected. Same in basketball - two techs if just mouthing off before ejection. It's time to use some dang common sense. But if they do, it removes their abilities to influence outcomes.

Which is THE problem.
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The umps will never be good enough to satisfy fans…. Didn’t get to watch last night bc I had other obligations(kept up online/radio and such) but last weekend I felt the umps did a decent job…. They are calling a game behind the catcher where the ball is going 85-100 mph and can move 10 inches or more… our vantage point is a zoomed in camera that is directly in line with the ball. Anytime you argue balls and strikes then you stand a real good chance of being kicked out… we may not like it but it is what happens in baseball… we were extremely lucky Jorel wasn’t ran last game… We lost last nights game bc of poor play…. We need our pitching to man up and do it’s job. Go Vols!
 
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engineerVOL said:
I missed last night’s game.

My 8u son’s baseball team had their championship game. It was, without a doubt, the best baseball game I’ve ever seen played. Just amazing. Team we faced averaged 18 runs. Held them to 4 through 5 innings. We have had an up and down year. Came into our own in the tourney. We held on to a 5-4 lead from the second. Lost 6-5 in the final inning. Just incredible plays being made by little dudes all over the field on both sides. Not only that, both squads had great parents. After the game, we just all realized how special that was.

Truly special moment. Little league baseball is awesome when parents don’t ruin it.
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Youth baseball is the best!!!
 
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Been moving the last few days and am about 40 pages behind and didn’t get to watch last nights game so I’ve got some questions. Drew is suspended today too, right? What about Anderson? I got a news alert about “Tennessee fans throwing trash again” or some ******** news line like that but the video that came with it only showed what looked like 3 beer cans on the field… was it worse than that? Or does ESPN just hate UT and jumped at the opportunity to talk about trash again?

I think I read that Notre Dames Ace pitcher starts today.. hope the boys are ready to knock him out early and never look back as payback for last night.
 
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