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Voltime123 said:
Telling ppl they are not allowed to make a decision on their future to be drafted at a certain time and earn a living for the benefit of college sports is ridiculous in my mind but to each their own
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It does benefit college baseball but it is an MLB rule….elite players can be drafted straight out of high school….. MLB wants to use college to help develop the rest mentally and physically….. it’s a good system that works out best for all involved.
 
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Devo182 said:
You can't apply for the test without the minimum college credits. At least for the CPA and CMA (private industry equivalent). I'm 99% certain the bar is the same way. A lot of people getting their CPA are pushed to also get a law degree. Powerful combo.

Probably the same for licensed engineers. Not sure how doctors work tbh. Do they even take tests or just fling it? Most doctors I've ran into seem to be just flinging it 😂
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I feel like you should be able to practice if you pass the test. If you somehow studied hard or apprenticed for a long time and could pass the test, you should be allowed to practice.
 
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volbeast33 said:
It does benefit college baseball but it is an MLB rule….elite players can be drafted straight out of high school….. MLB wants to use college to help develop the rest mentally and physically….. it’s a good system that works out best for all involved.
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MLB has every right to do that, just as any company would have the right to require a degree to be considered for certain positions.
 
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jave36 said:
I feel like you should be able to practice if you pass the test. If you somehow studied hard or apprenticed for a long time and could pass the test, you should be allowed to practice.
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There is then the risk of "test beaters" or "lucky passers" that have no idea what they're actually doing or understanding broader concepts...since they are multiple choice tests (CPA). The CMA does require an essay, which takes away some luck factor, but alas.

The organizations that run and manage the certifications also want a basic level of legitimacy and they would lose that if just anyone could take it.
 
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Nash_Vol97 said:
Question for all you Pellet grillers.

I already have a Kamado Joe and I love it. It handles pretty much anything for me but I am going to build an outdoor kitchen at my new house and am debating about skipping the gas grill and just going for a Pellet Grill instead to pair with the Kamado. The question though: how well does a pellet grill sear a steak in y’all’s experience?

If I have the time I usually like to do it on the Kamado but when pressed for time I still will throw it on the gas grill or pan sear it in a cast iron. I’ve watched videos on searing on Traegars and I just worry it won’t be quite good enough.
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Can’t help you with this as I have a BGE. But, If I sere in your position, I would definitely consider a Blackstone in addition to my grills.
 
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Caesar's sportsbook put our over/under on season win totals at 7.5

Tennessee is looking to take another big step in the right direction in its second season under head coach Josh Heupel in 2022, and one oddsmaker is setting the bar for the Vols at improvement upon last season’s win total. The Vols exceeded modest expectations in Heupel’s debut in 2021, emerging from the carnage of an offseason featuring a coaching change and significant roster turnover to play exciting and competitive football en route to a seven-win regular season. Taking into consideration what Tennessee returns, Caesars Sportsbook has the over/under for projected wins for the Vols in 2022 at 7.5 games.

Only four SEC teams – Georgia, Alabama, Texas A&M and Kentucky – have higher projected win totals on Caesars Sportsbook, and in addition to playing three of those teams plus Pittsburgh – whose win total is 8.5 games – the Vols face two more SEC rivals (LSU and Florida) with seven-win over/under marks for 2022.
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Wonder what the juice will be for the over
 
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Orange_Crush said:
I am. I understand the point you're making, but it falls short. My "kids" are all adults, just like the college players. Also, when I was limiting my kids' personal rights to protect them, it was in the context of knowing each of them as individuals, as opposed to blanket rules, taking rights from strangers I don't even know, and to whom the rules may or may not benefit.

My point is that I'm generally libertarian in my views. I'm generally for as small a nanny state as possible. That principle applies here.

For future reference, if you want to promote discourse, I would encourage asking questions as opposed to accusing someone's parental skills right out of the gate. Makes you look like an ***hole.
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It was a sarcastic response to your sarcastic response. Lighten up Francis.

My point remains. Mature people set limits for less mature people generally to protect them. As parents that is a large part of our job. I am very much a libertarian, but I'm also old enough to recognize that there are reasonable limits.
 
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Devo182 said:
There is then the risk of "test beaters" or "lucky passers" that have no idea what they're actually doing or understanding broader concepts...since they are multiple choice tests (CPA). The CMA does require an essay, which takes away some luck factor, but alas.

The organizations that run and manage the certifications also want a basic level of legitimacy and they would lose that if just anyone could take it.
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Sounds like poor test design to me. If you apprenticed under a cpa for years I think you should be allowed to try. But I agree there are risks.
 
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SSVol said:
It was a sarcastic response to your sarcastic response. Lighten up Francis.

My point remains. Mature people set limits for less mature people generally to protect them. As parents that is a large part of our job. I am very much a libertarian, but I'm also old enough to recognize that there are reasonable limits.
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Your point only remains if your "libertarian" ideals can't make the distinction that society doesn't need to be treating free citizens as children.

We can be done now.
 
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Voltime123 said:
But the rule make no sense considering high schoolers can get drafted, the rule made sense 20 years ago
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My entire point on this is that decisions don't have to make sense (or even be healthy) for one to have the right to make them.

It's obvious that MLB's rule isn't actually there to "protect the kids" or whatever. It's there to protect MLB's interests, and they have the right to do so up until it infringes on the rights of others. A high school student, nor a college athlete have the "right" to play MLB, so there you go.

I personally think MLB would better protect their interests without a blanket rule like that, but... Whatever. It's their league.
 
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Orange_Crush said:
My entire point on this is that decisions don't have to make sense (or even be healthy) for one to have the right to make them.

It's obvious that MLB's rule isn't actually there to "protect the kids" or whatever. It's there to protect MLB's interests, and they have the right to do so up until it infringes on the rights of others. A high school student, nor a college athlete have the "right" to play MLB, so there you go.

I personally think MLB would better protect their interests without a blanket rule like that, but... Whatever. It's their league.
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Good point, tired of the idea this rule is there to protect athletes that is laughable
 
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Orange_Crush said:
Your point only remains if your "libertarian" ideals can't make the distinction that society doesn't need to be treating free citizens as children.

We can be done now.
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It's all in the definitions. Voting ages vary throughout the world from 16 to 25. Some would say 21 is still a child and rental car companies would seem to agree.
 
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Buddy’s Bandit said:
Can’t help you with this as I have a BGE. But, If I sere in your position, I would definitely consider a Blackstone in addition to my grills.
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A Blackstone is for sure on the list. I’m going to plan the space for a tabletop one and then later when I want to buy it I’m going to act like it’s a brand new idea to my wife 😂
 
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