War in Ukraine

I'm proud of you guys for wanting to learn more about the many ethnic groups in Russia. This means I know have free reign to post videos teaching you guys more about their languages, music, culture, etc. I'll start sharing some stuff. I'm so happy to hear this.
 
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I'm proud of you guys for wanting to learn more about the many ethnic groups in Russia. This means I know have free reign to post videos teaching you guys more about their languages, music, culture, etc. I'll start sharing some stuff. I'm so happy to hear this.
Maybe we can also expect them to champion the independence movement of indigenous people in other parts of the world. I mean, we are America, and we have to save the world, right?
 
Maybe we can also expect them to champion the independence movement of indigenous people in other parts of the world. I mean, we are America, and we have to save the world, right?
Exactly. Next they will support an independence movement of the Sami people in Finland. These guys are so open minded now. I'm proud of them.
 
Exactly. Next they will support an independence movement of the Sami people in Finland. These guys are so open minded now. I'm proud of them.
So what is your hard and fast rule then?

Independence is bad, or is it good?

Should it be maintained, or not?

Because you and Ras are picking and choosing just as much as the guys you claim to be some different from.
 
I'm proud of you guys for wanting to learn more about the many ethnic groups in Russia. This means I know have free reign to post videos teaching you guys more about their languages, music, culture, etc. I'll start sharing some stuff. I'm so happy to hear this.

People would know more about them if Russia hadn't been so successful at marginalizing and surpressing them. Imagine one of their tribes trying to get a grievance heard in Moscow, much less internationally.
 
This is what most of you morons have hitched your wagon to....telling the people that are keeping you afloat to eff themselves for offering a reasonable end to this affair...


You clearly don't understand what it means to have pride and not cower in the face of danger.
 
I've tried asking these guys what makes Ukraine unique compared to any other situation and get accused of whataboutism.

That's because it's a clear attempt to deflect criticism by implicating and attacking the critics country.

It's unsurprising that you and @DonjoVol , despite numerous explanations of this logical fallacy - keep trotting it out. Perhaps the two of you ought to read up on a tu quoque arguments and hopefully figure out why you should be embarrassed about it. And how you looking even more ridiculous my mocking those who point it out, it's a self inflicted insult to the injury.

If you can't figure out that answering criticism with criticism is nothing more than specious reasoning, then ya'll are really dumber than was previously believed. Though I've watched Donjo scrape the bottom of the proverbial bottle every time asks why we're helping the Ukrainians since they're winning.
 
That's because it's a clear attempt to deflect criticism by implicating and attacking the critics country.

It's unsurprising that you and @DonjoVol , despite numerous explanations of this logical fallacy - keep trotting it out. Perhaps the two of you ought to read up on a tu quoque arguments and hopefully figure out why you should be embarrassed about it. And how you looking even more ridiculous my mocking those who point it out, it's a self inflicted insult to the injury.

If you can't figure out that answering criticism with criticism is nothing more than specious reasoning, then ya'll are really dumber than was previously believed. Though I've watched Donjo scrape the bottom of the proverbial bottle every time asks why we're helping the Ukrainians since they're winning.
It's not deflection. It is putting two similar items together and examining why one situation is handled one way, but the other situation is treated differently. Those questions are reasonable to ask when we are in jeopardy of sliding head first into a hot war with a nuclear peer.
 
It's not deflection. It is putting two similar items together and examining why one situation is handled one way, but the other situation is treated differently. Those questions are reasonable to ask when we are in jeopardy of sliding head first into a hot war with a nuclear peer.

It's very literally a deflection and I find it both sad and hilarious that you keep arguing this immutable fact. Known as a "you too" argument, it's an attempt to attack the person asserting the criticism by attacking them rather than the criticism itself.

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