War in Ukraine

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DonjoVol said:
Both are sensible questions. Plus, from the messaging of the Ukrainian Bots in here it is obvious Ukraine is putting a whooping on Russia and therefore DOES NOT need a penny from us.
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Why did Russia need to revamp their economy if the sanctions dont matter?

You just ignore the answers, and the questions you dont like, I have answered why they need money a bunch of times. And unlike you, I can back up me saying I have answered it.

War costs money. Always has, always will. This isnt some Globalism/NATO conspiracy. War is expensive, win or lose. Ukraine needs money. America doesnt need to be the one providing it.

It's why you guys keep flaunting the Russian economy. If it was in the tank, it would very much impact their war effort. Russia has cut off Ukraines access to the see, that's money gone. Russia just recently lost Ukraines second biggest city, that was money not coming in for however long the russians were there. The bottom fifth of Ukraine is a warzone, not much money to be made there. Donbas has been gone for 8 years and that was a money maker. Even people like you three should see why they need money.

Heck you do, you just wont admit it, and drop your Russian talking point.
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
I've tried asking these guys what makes Ukraine unique compared to any other situation and get accused of whataboutism.
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Actually no that isn’t what we correctly call you out on whataboutism on Moe. We call you out on whataboutism when you deflect away from some action by Russia by replying well the US did virtually the same thing here with the implication clearly being if it’s good for the US then its good for Russia. That is what whataboutism is and it’s the goto play by your man crush Pootin and you also. And you get all indignant and pissy when we throw it back in your face.
 
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@LouderVol I’m pretty sure I’ve joined your club with respect to Ras or he’s just speechless all the time now. Hilarious that he’s that thin skinned with all the BS he posts in this thread 😂
 
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NorthDallas40 said:
@LouderVol I’m pretty sure I’ve joined your club with respect to Ras or he’s just speechless all the time now. Hilarious that he’s that thin skinned with all the BS he posts in this thread 😂
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He doesnt like the holes in his arguments, contradictions, and logical fallacies pointed out.

He is right to question. And right on a lot of the stuff he questions. But he has fallen into the trap of believing everything he questions is bad/wrong and the things he doesnt are good/correct. He doesnt want to deal with the uncomfortable truths that dont fit his preconceived notions. I call it the conspiracy theorist trap. They find enough to prove 1-5, and assume that's enough to justify whatever belief they have in 6 thru 100.
 
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DonjoVol said:
If every Native American tribe in the U.S. and Canada wanted their independence would you support it?
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That doesn’t answer the question Curly. This again is an example of whataboutism (yes it really is whether you like it or not) as the implication is the US took Native American lands thus its ok for Russia to take these indigenous people’s land. But since were ping ponging around as always does Russia recognize and provide for reservation status for these people and recognize the autonomous and economic freedoms granted to those indigenous nations? Run along and find a Butwhatabout you can play back on that question Curly.
 
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NorthDallas40 said:
That doesn’t answer the question Curly. This again is an example of whataboutism (yes it really is whether you like it or not) as the implication is the US took Native American lands thus its ok for Russia to take these indigenous people’s land. By since were ping ponging around as always does Russia recognize and provide for reservation status for these people and recognize the autonomous and economic freedoms granted to those indigenous nations? Run along and find a Butwhatabout you can play back on the question Curly.
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The Erzya people reside primarily in Mordovia. Which is a republic of Russia. The constitution of Mordovia allows them to speak their language. The article that was shared is an example of fake news.

But it is good to see you guys finally coming around and recognizing groups like the Erzya as their own race. I'm proud of you all.
 
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NorthDallas40 said:
That doesn’t answer the question Curly. This again is an example of whataboutism (yes it really is whether you like it or not) as the implication is the US took Native American lands thus its ok for Russia to take these indigenous people’s land. But since were ping ponging around as always does Russia recognize and provide for reservation status for these people and recognize the autonomous and economic freedoms granted to those indigenous nations? Run along and find a Butwhatabout you can play back on that question Curly.
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That's not what I said. You guys really have a way to twist someone's words LMAO. But I think we know how the Ukrainian bots in here would feel if all the Native American tribes started their own independence movement.
 
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DonjoVol said:
That's not what I said. You guys really have a way to twist someone's words LMAO. But I think we know how the Ukrainian bots in here would feel if all the Native American tribes started their own independence movement.
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You twist your own words curly because you can’t keep your own ******** straight 🤡
 
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DonjoVol said:
The Erzya people reside primarily in Mordovia. Which is a republic of Russia. The constitution of Mordovia allows them to speak their language. The article that was shared is an example of fake news.

But it is good to see you guys finally coming around and recognizing groups like the Erzya as their own race. I'm proud of you all.
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Allows them to get all crazy and speak their own language huh? That’s some freaking amazing autonomy right there 🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡
 
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DonjoVol said:
The Erzya people reside primarily in Mordovia. Which is a republic of Russia. The constitution of Mordovia allows them to speak their language. The article that was shared is an example of fake news.

But it is good to see you guys finally coming around and recognizing groups like the Erzya as their own race. I'm proud of you all.
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Letting them speak a language is recognizing them? Lmao.

And just in one province just barely bigger than Maryland.

On that scale the Native Americans are their own country and have their freedom.
 
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