War in Ukraine

You wanted the previous idiot who claimed he wanted to spend more. So yes you have no right to biatch. Jesus man.

LOL

NOW he cries about spending. Not a peep while his flavor of politcian was swiping the credit card.

@BigOrangeTrain spare us from pearl clutching theatrics. Watching you catch the vapors now as you sprawl out on your fainting couch is funny, no one is taking you seriously.
 
Why not an all out diplomatic effort to end this war rather than letting Ukrainians die so we can "neuter" the Russians?
There is no diplomatic solution while Putin remains in power. He's too far in. If he pulls his forces out now, it looks like total defeat, and he looks weak. Everything we know about his character says that is not an option. So unless there's a coup, diplomacy is useless.

And no one is "letting" Ukrainians die. They're being murdered by an invading force. I don't think Russia bothered to ask the rest of the world if it was okay to launch an assault on their neighbor.


I'm not sure what kind of diplomacy you think is going to get Putin to pull his troops out.
 
our top folks are not even trying to talk to their top folks - it's like the Ukrainians gave us a gift (of their lives and infrastructure) to stick it to the Ruskies
To be fair Ukraine didn’t ask to be invaded all the way back to 2014 and they are on the record stating they want Crimea and the break away regions back. There is no way Russia will willingly give up Sevastopol. There is also information that Austin has been trying to reach his counter part and until recently they didn’t want to talk.
 
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Poor ba$tards. Their cocaine addicted actor of a President has already said they will be sacrificed. TO THE LAST UKRAINIAN!!!!

 
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Russia neutered for a paltry $40 billion. Zero American casualties. Bargain.

We spent over $2 trillion on Afghanistan. 23,000 casualties. And what did we achieve?

Unless of course Russia isnt neutered after this, which by all accounts looks to be the case. Hell, as it stands now, they look to be STRONGER after this. You guys really are a special form of delusional.
 
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This is the best question asked ... seems reasonable the Russia could be totally isolated by the free world and brought to its knees in short order... but no, bombs and more bombs seem to be the path to peace. Isolate those fuggers (totally) for a few months and things will change.

They are only isolated from the Western Death Cult. The rest of the world is open to them. Something tells me they'll be fine.
 
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Does anyone believe these issues will not be worked out?

5 hr 23 min agoTurkish official holds calls with Swedish and Finnish counterparts on NATO membership applications
From Isil Sariyuce in Istanbul
Ibrahim Kalin, the spokesperson for Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan, held phone calls with his counterparts from Sweden and Finland as well as Germany, the US and the UK to discuss NATO membership applications of Sweden and Finland, among other topics.
“In the context of Sweden and Finland's membership applications to NATO, the expectation that concrete steps will be taken to address Turkey's national security concerns was communicated. It was underlined that if Turkey's expectations were not met, the progress of the process would not be possible,” according to a readout of the meeting.
“During the meetings, it was also emphasized that it is unacceptable to allow the terrorist organization PKK/PYD/YPG and FETO members to exist in NATO members and other countries. It was stated that there should be no discrimination between terrorist organizations and that all forms of terrorism should be fought in a spirit of unity and solidarity,” the readout added.
Erdogan has accused the two countries of harboring members of the separatist militant Kurdistan Workers' Party, or PKK, and supporters of US-based cleric Fethullah Gulen, whom Turkey accuses of masterminding a 2016 coup attempt, which Gulen denies. The PKK has been designated a terrorist organization by Turkey, the United States and the European Union. Erdogan also said Sweden did not extradite 30 people whom Turkey sees linked to terrorism.
According to the readout, the reversal of defense export bans and of sanctions against Turkey were also addressed.
Earlier on Wednesday, Erdogan told his party's members of parliament in Ankara that he expects NATO member countries to “understand” Turkey’s security issues.

Question is, why wasnt this worked out beforehand? NATO is a mess. Shocker.
 
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I don’t want to hear about helping Ukraine. They don’t deserve our help. No country does. Especially when we have massive troubles on our own country. Massive inflation, commodity shortages, fuel prices skyrocketing. And we get to see this idiot send tens of billions of dollars because “oh poor Ukraine.” BS.

Would the world be better or worse if the Western Death Cult had remained neutral in all this and let Russia/Ukraine work out their regional conflict? We have created an absolute disaster, which has become our new normal it seems.
 
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Yes, alliances between major democratic nations are often messy. Of course, that isn't something Russia would know anything about.

No sh!t, but you work it out behind the scenes and present a united front in public. Finland/Sweden are being humiliated and now at risk from giving up Russian neutrality. Look, I find it comical, but they are idiots.
 
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Would the world be better or worse if the Western Death Cult had remained neutral in all this and let Russia/Ukraine work out their regional conflict? We have created an absolute disaster, which has become our new normal it seems.
You misspelled “let Russia overrun and conquer” stooge boy 🤡
 
No sh!t, but you work it out behind the scenes and present a united front in public. Finland/Sweden are being humiliated and now at risk from giving up Russian neutrality. Look, I find it comical, but they are idiots.
They aren't at risk. They know they now having the backing of the West. Those countries are now off limits to Russian fascism forever.

Sorry.
 
They aren't at risk. They know they now having the backing of the West. Those countries are now off limits to Russian fascism forever.

Sorry.

Uhh, they are at risk and no, they don't have the backing of the Western Death Cult...not yet. They were off limits to Russia already. Russia was no threat to Finland and Sweden.
 
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