War in Ukraine

That war was known as the first truly televised war and this one could go down as the first one that was truly comprehensively captured on social media.
Didn’t Geraldo Rivera go on TV during that war essentially showing viewers how close Iraq’s missiles were from hitting Americans?
 
The videos I’ve seen from civilians are not like anything we’ve ever seen. Most videos we’ve seen from Afghanistan or Iraq were from our guys with go pros or Jihadi propaganda videos blowing up a humvee. Hopefully a positive unintended consequence will be to show how horrific war is to the local population and cause everyone to see the realities of what’s really happening.
Also, this footage from Ukraine is more relatable to a wider audience, especially a Western audience. Civilians getting killed anywhere is terrible, but humans naturally sympathize more with people they feel like they can relate to. Ukraine is a more modern, prosperous, and Western country than somewhere like Iraq and Afghanistan. These videos getting posted to Twitter are from people standing in their house or apartment, sometimes in a relatively large, modern-looking city, with a plane getting shot down, missile impacting, or tanks driving by. It hits closer to home and seems like something that could happen in your own backyard. It is absolutely astonishing.
 
BRAVE UNTIL THE END
https://nypost.com/2022/02/24/ukrainian-border-guards-killed-after-telling-russian-warship-off/
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Defiant Ukrainian border guards killed after telling Russian warship to ‘go f–k yourself’

Ukrainian border guards defending a Black Sea island defiantly told an invading Russian warship to “go f–k yourself” when asked to surrender and were killed when the warship opened fire.

The 13 guards were posted on the small but strategic Snake Island off Ukraine’s southeastern border when they were approached by two vessels on Thursday, according to Ukrainian media outlets.

The Russians contacted the guards and identified themselves as a “Russian Warship,” demanding that the Ukrainians surrender or else they would open fire according to audio of the exchange.

“This is a Russian warship, I repeat. I suggest you surrender your weapons and capitulate otherwise I will open fire. Do you copy?” The Russians said to the border guards.

Ukrainian border guards killed after telling Russian warship off
 
I’m on limited SM, but has the EU said anything of note other than the obligatory words of support since this began? I know Germany is firmly in the fetal position, but France? UK? Anyone? Bueller?
Crickets. See Post #6,749... Zelensky is realizing he's been hoodwinked.
 
Its funny how the rabid GOPers, so hell-bent on knee jerk bashing of Biden, have shifted from claiming that Biden was wrong about Putin's plans and even justifying Putin's actions, to now mocking the US military and diversity.

As if we would not notice how terribly wrong you were about literally EVERYTHING having to do with this event.

Who is justifying Putin’s actions in the GOP?
 
Most everyone agrees with the intelligence that Putin helped Trump get elected. If he was so scared of him, why would he do that? Trump certainly seemed to make it easier for Putin all through his adminstration-- abandoning the Kurds, siding with him over the CIA, weakening NATO, ignoring bounties on our soldiers, blackmailing Ukraine (to the point of getting impeached over it)

Lol bounties on soldiers and Putin getting trump elected. Have you not watched the news since 2016? Seems you believe a lot of falsehoods

Also hilarious that you include trump providing military aid to Ukraine as trump supporting Russia.
 
Stuck between a rock and a hard place. We want to help protect Ukraine but have no foothold there and if we do what stops China (who is waiting to see what we do) invade Taiwan.
I hate that Ukraine pres calling us cowards.. tired of living in all these history books.
 
Report: Biden to Divert Agents from U.S. Southern Border, Send Them to ‘Assist’ with Russia-Ukraine Conflict

President Joe Biden’s administration is looking to divert United States Border Patrol agents from their mission at the U.S.-Mexico border to send them overseas “to assist” those fleeing from Ukraine amidst Russia’s invasion, a new report states.

Even as illegal immigration continues pouring through the nation’s southern border at record levels, Biden hopes to entice Border Patrol agents to sign up voluntarily to aid American citizens, green card-holders, and their immediate relatives fleeing Ukraine into Eastern Europe.

Report: Biden to Divert Agents from U.S. Border, Send Them to Poland
 
I don’t think we can. Most of our European “allies” aren’t very militarized aside from maybe the French but it’d be foolish to expect much from them. Poland, Israel and South Korea all have reason to side with us but they lack the industrial might to be of consequence. Who do we have in our corner that comes close to the military capability of the Dog eaters or Russians? India has the population but I doubt they have the industrial capacity. We’re in trouble if the things carry on in this direction
You seem to be talking about war with both concurrently. We and our allies should be able to contain them, at least Russia, without war.
If it comes to it, NATO is strong militarily. North America and Western Europe > Russia and China. Add in Japan and some ME and SEA and we have a clearer advantage. Israel won't be involved. Now is no time to surrender.
 
Report: Biden to Divert Agents from U.S. Southern Border, Send Them to ‘Assist’ with Russia-Ukraine Conflict

President Joe Biden’s administration is looking to divert United States Border Patrol agents from their mission at the U.S.-Mexico border to send them overseas “to assist” those fleeing from Ukraine amidst Russia’s invasion, a new report states.

Even as illegal immigration continues pouring through the nation’s southern border at record levels, Biden hopes to entice Border Patrol agents to sign up voluntarily to aid American citizens, green card-holders, and their immediate relatives fleeing Ukraine into Eastern Europe.

Report: Biden to Divert Agents from U.S. Border, Send Them to Poland
What a complete goober for a president
 
Report: Biden to Divert Agents from U.S. Southern Border, Send Them to ‘Assist’ with Russia-Ukraine Conflict

President Joe Biden’s administration is looking to divert United States Border Patrol agents from their mission at the U.S.-Mexico border to send them overseas “to assist” those fleeing from Ukraine amidst Russia’s invasion, a new report states.

Even as illegal immigration continues pouring through the nation’s southern border at record levels, Biden hopes to entice Border Patrol agents to sign up voluntarily to aid American citizens, green card-holders, and their immediate relatives fleeing Ukraine into Eastern Europe.

Report: Biden to Divert Agents from U.S. Border, Send Them to Poland
Protect Ukraine border but neglect ours.
 
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