War in Ukraine

[05_never_again]

You are actually claiming things were as much divisive in a prior time period in which you were not even witness. At least us older folks get to use our reality comparison and not some history book bias.

Actually, I should be way more likely than you to claim that current times are worse.

 

[NorthDallas40]

They were Soviet nukes stored there. That would have just been the launch point, but the order would still come from Moscow.

The major development center for Soviet nukes was in Kyiv. They didn’t have launch codes but they would have had plenty of time to install their own delivery method from 1994 until now. So no if they hadn’t given up their nukes this never happens.

Ukraine and Soviet Nuclear History

 

[Orangeburst]

Over/Under on the word "Trump" mentioned on CNN and MSNBC today?

 

[DancingOutlaw]

Did Putin ever stop to think ONE TIME about what this would do to Joy Behar?

 

[BigOrangeTrain]

Right. Didn't Trump's America First doctrine stress non-interventionism? I don't understand where the belief that Trump would have countered this Russian attack with a military response is coming from.

Probably the same place that fed you and the other idiots the lie about Russian collusion and Trump was a dictator. And you all fell for it.

 

[Orangeburst]

The Union of the USSR...sounds familiar to our own nations 1861 fight.

 

[Orangeburst]

Did Putin ever stop to think ONE TIME about what this would do to Joy Behar?

Good god...cant make a Euro trip...I hate these narcissists

 

[Fun coupon VOL]

 

[tvolsfan]

The major development center for Soviet nukes was in Kyiv. They didn’t have launch codes but they would have had plenty of time to install their own delivery method from 1994 until now. So no if they hadn’t given up their nukes this never happens.

Ukraine and Soviet Nuclear History

Thanks

 

[Velo Vol]

She must be writing a sternly-worded letter.

 

[lukeneyland]

And yes we can deal with them and China at the same time. Containing them does not necessarily mean war. We have allies too.

I don’t think we can. Most of our European “allies” aren’t very militarized aside from maybe the French but it’d be foolish to expect much from them. Poland, Israel and South Korea all have reason to side with us but they lack the industrial might to be of consequence. Who do we have in our corner that comes close to the military capability of the Dog eaters or Russians? India has the population but I doubt they have the industrial capacity. We’re in trouble if the things carry on in this direction

 

[NorthDallas40]

Thanks

I think I saw that same link posted on here before too. But there was a nuke research center I think in Kharkov going back to the 1920’s? I’m sure there were other centers or “Oblast” I think they called them but the Ukrainians actually provided some fairly smart MFers feeding the old Soviet war machine.

Edit: not oblast they were atomgrads I looked it up. Kinda like Oak Ridge I think?

 

[BigOrangeTrain]

Lol. You are so gullible and dumb.

Yes, Trump Called Putin's Ukraine Strategy ‘Savvy’ and 'Genius'

 

[Velo Vol]

 

[KnoxLandcruiser]

Over/Under on the word "Trump" mentioned on CNN and MSNBC today?

LOL draftkings offering a "bowlbrother promo" to hammer the over

 

[Orangeburst]

Looks deservedly weathered...



Yet who holds the UN Security Council Chairmanship now?

 

[NEO]

Fighter jet? Bomber? That went multiple ways.

 

[RDU VOL#14]

Did Putin ever stop to think ONE TIME about what this would do to Joy Behar?

At least somebody good in Europe got a Win today. And that somebody was the entire country of Italy.

 

[Rasputin_Vol]

We need to find a way to get the Poles pissed off and pounding some Commie ass. They’d unleash some pent up aggression that’s been brewing since 1939 against the Germans and the Russians. Then we could really get this party started.

So this is entertaining?

 

[Velo Vol]

 

[CagleMtnVol]

Obama ordered a Navy SEAL team to invade what was considered an ally nation to take out UBL. Didn't even alert Pakistan they were going to do it. How many Presidents have done that?

And who in that White House that is there now was against it!

 

[NEO]

Is this the air defense system we gave them?

 

[Weezer]

And who in that White House that is there now was against it!

My point was sometimes Presidents can surprise everyone. Obama going into Pakistan for UBL was one of the few things he did I had high respect for. While I highly doubt Biden will do anything of significance, all it takes is the right voice getting in his ear and convincing him to make it happen. But I doubt we see that.

 

[Rasputin_Vol]

Meanwhile, crickets...

Large-Scale Bombardment Of Kiev Deemed Imminent As Zelensky Admits "We Are Left Alone" As NATO "Afraid" | ZeroHedge

"We need to talk about a ceasefire with Russia," he added in the video message. Then what followed suggests the brutal reality is finally sinking in that despite years of 'promises' from Washington and the West of a "path to NATO membership" - none of his backers or Ukraine's allies are coming to help:

"We are not afraid to talk to Russia. We are not afraid to talk about security guarantees for our state. We are not afraid to talk about neutral status. But what security guarantees will we have? But which countries will give them?" Zelensky says in response to a prior Russian offer to begin to negotiation "terms of surrender".​

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"We are left alone in defense of our state. Who is ready to fight with us? I don’t see it. Who is ready to guarantee Ukraine’s accession to Nato? Everyone is afraid," added Zelensky.​

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"I asked the 27 leaders of Europe whether Ukraine should be in Nato. I asked directly. They are all afraid. And we are not afraid," he said.​

 

[Weezer]

I hope they didn't hit the aliens.