We just witnessed the greatest season by a UT QB not named Manning

#77
#77
The 4th quarter argument is maybe one of the dumbest things I've ever read. Hooker was throwing in the 4th vs the best teams we played, generally while we were behind or way behind. Every quarterback who ever played will see their numbers dip in those situations over the course of a season. Hooker didn't get the advantage of being able to throw the ball in the 4th against most of the teams we beat because we were way ahead in those games. It also discounts his running the ball for positive yardage in those situations. Finally, trying to use the fact that we get out to fast starts as some negative against him is very odd to say the least.
 
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#91
VolArmy74 said:
62-63-4 is a losing record. Ties are counted as .5 win/loss when calculating winning percentage, so the 4 ties add 2 wins and 2 losses to the total for the calculation. His record for the calculation is 64-65, or .496, a losing record.
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If you use the rounding rule it would not be a losing record right?
 
#92
#92
agent|orange said:
I know I'm being a Debbie Downer, but here's another angle:

Hendon Hooker in 2021: 7 wins
Clausen in 2001: 11 wins
Manning in 1996: 10 wins
Martin in 1998: 13 wins and a NC
Kelly in 1991: 9 wins
Ainge in 2006: 9 wins
Bray in 2012: 5 wins
Shuler in 1993: 10 wins
Dobbs in 2016: 9 wins

QBs are the only position judged both by their wins and how they affect W/L. I think we're a 5 win team without Hooker and a 9-10 win team with better (or at least more consistent) QB play.

Without Tillman, Hooker doesn't do much. Without basically ANY WR, Purdue's walk-on QB still absolutely trashed us. That's the difference IMO. Hooker himself is very inconsistent. He has a spectacular 1st Quarter, bad 2nd Quarter, usually a good couple of drives in the 3rd Quarter and his 4th Quarter is usually his worst. That's not good for a QB.
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This combined with the other stats tells me Hooker wasn’t the problem.
 
#94
#94
Volsfannn said:
Just saying brother, wins and losses is what matters. Cincinnati is in the playoff about to start. You honestly think UT'S talent is that far below Cincinnati? The 98 team had something no other UT team has had since. They had luck and a serious will to win. Not to mention the defense. As I've said in other posts, UT will not be top tier sec until the defense is top tier. Offense will win some games defense wins championships.
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We didn’t play Cincy’s schedule.
 
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VolArmy74 said:
62-63-4 is a losing record. Ties are counted as .5 win/loss when calculating winning percentage, so the 4 ties add 2 wins and 2 losses to the total for the calculation. His record for the calculation is 64-65, or .496, a losing record.
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There you have 2 super bowl winning qbs with damn near .500 winning percentage in the hall of fame. No way either are there without WINNING the super bowl...
 
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