Amateur Hour Continues

[Velo Vol]

I'm all in favor of charity.

He wasn't prescribing how the tax system should be structured. So if that's what we're trying to get out of the Bible, the conversation isn't going to end anywhere.

 

[NorthDallas40]

Tithing is to support the temple in Jerusalem. No temple….no tithe. It’s Old Testament stuff.

Beat me to it.

 

[hog88]

Throughout.

Just one verse? Can you come up with just one?

 

[NorthDallas40]

Where?

Ok you know you’re not going to get a direct answer right?

 

[hog88]

He wasn't prescribing how the tax system should be structured. So if that's what we're trying to get out of the Bible, the conversation isn't going to end anywhere.

It should have never started because Luther's comment was ill informed. Well actually it was just plain wrong.

 

[NorthDallas40]

Matthew 13:1. Jesus was a clear supply sider and believed in building walls between nations. Also, strongly supported phrases such as "Trump that b*tch". It's all there dude.

If you ever touched a Bible you’d burst into flames

 

[hog88]

Ok you know you’re not going to get a direct answer right?

Yeah I know.

 

[southgatevol]

It should have never started because Luther's comment was ill informed. Well actually it was just plain wrong.

Luther wrong? Is it possible?

 

[evillawyer]

If you ever touched a Bible you’d burst into flames

Don't worry. I'm not Christian. Just grew up around them.

 

[MG1968]

Just one verse? Can you come up with just one?

Luther thinks tithing is the same thing as wealth redistribution so don’t expect anything resembling truth if he answers your question.

 

[NorthDallas40]

Luther wrong? Is it possible?

He thought he was right once. But as usual he was wrong.

 

[luthervol]

Tithing is to support the temple in Jerusalem. No temple….no tithe. It’s Old Testament stuff.

Matthew 23:23
“Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! For you tithe mint and dill and cumin, and have neglected the weightier matters of the law: justice and mercy and faithfulness. These you ought to have done, without neglecting the others."
Luke 11:42
“But woe to you Pharisees! For you tithe mint and rue and every herb, and neglect justice and the love of God. These you ought to have done, without neglecting the others.

 

[evillawyer]

I'm all in favor of charity.

It's a lot more than throwing a few pieces of silver at the lepers.

Christian views on poverty and wealth - Wikipedia

 

[NorthDallas40]

Don't worry. I'm not Christian. Just grew up around them.

I’m shocked to hear that. And that jibes with your scripture quote.

“That same day Jesus went out of the house and sat by the lake”

There is a clear interpretation there to be drawn on economics

By the same token I’d guess you grew up around rational level headed people which also explains your current state

 

[luthervol]

Just one verse? Can you come up with just one?

Honor the Lord with your wealth and with the firstfruits of all your produce; then your barns will be filled with plenty, and your vats will be bursting with wine.

 

[southgatevol]

Matthew 23:23
“Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! For you tithe mint and dill and cumin, and have neglected the weightier matters of the law: justice and mercy and faithfulness. These you ought to have done, without neglecting the others."
Luke 11:42
“But woe to you Pharisees! For you tithe mint and rue and every herb, and neglect justice and the love of God. These you ought to have done, without neglecting the others.

Once again in over your head...stay in the shallow end.

 

[luthervol]

Luther thinks tithing is the same thing as wealth redistribution so don’t expect anything resembling truth if he answers your question.

Will man rob God? Yet you are robbing me. But you say, ‘How have we robbed you?’ In your tithes and contributions. You are cursed with a curse, for you are robbing me, the whole nation of you. Bring the full tithe into the storehouse, that there may be food in my house. And thereby put me to the test, says the Lord of hosts, if I will not open the windows of heaven for you and pour down for you a blessing until there is no more need. I will rebuke the devourer for you, so that it will not destroy the fruits of your soil, and your vine in the field shall not fail to bear, says the Lord of hosts. Then all nations will call you blessed, for you will be a land of delight, says the Lord of hosts.

Luke 12:33
Sell your possessions, and give to the needy. Provide yourselves with moneybags that do not grow old, with a treasure in the heavens that does not fail, where no thief approaches and no moth destroys.

 

[southgatevol]

Honor the Lord with your wealth and with the firstfruits of all your produce; then your barns will be filled with plenty, and your vats will be bursting with wine.

So it is ok to be wealthy?

 

[MG1968]

Will man rob God? Yet you are robbing me. But you say, ‘How have we robbed you?’ In your tithes and contributions. You are cursed with a curse, for you are robbing me, the whole nation of you. Bring the full tithe into the storehouse, that there may be food in my house. And thereby put me to the test, says the Lord of hosts, if I will not open the windows of heaven for you and pour down for you a blessing until there is no more need. I will rebuke the devourer for you, so that it will not destroy the fruits of your soil, and your vine in the field shall not fail to bear, says the Lord of hosts. Then all nations will call you blessed, for you will be a land of delight, says the Lord of hosts.

Still not wealth redistribution.

 

[hog88]

Matthew 23:23
“Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! For you tithe mint and dill and cumin, and have neglected the weightier matters of the law: justice and mercy and faithfulness. These you ought to have done, without neglecting the others."
Luke 11:42
“But woe to you Pharisees! For you tithe mint and rue and every herb, and neglect justice and the love of God. These you ought to have done, without neglecting the others.

Those do not support your original comment.

 

[luthervol]

So it is ok to be wealthy?

If you are giving enough of your wealth back.

 

[hog88]

It's a lot more than throwing a few pieces of silver at the lepers.

Christian views on poverty and wealth - Wikipedia

And? What is this supposed to support?

 

[luthervol]

Still not wealth redistribution.

Luke 12:33
Sell your possessions, and give to the needy. Provide yourselves with moneybags that do not grow old, with a treasure in the heavens that does not fail, where no thief approaches and no moth destroys.

 

[southgatevol]

If you are giving enough of your wealth back.

Does Christ specify how much is enough?

 

[hog88]

Honor the Lord with your wealth and with the firstfruits of all your produce; then your barns will be filled with plenty, and your vats will be bursting with wine.

Umm what does that have to do with your original comment?