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SweetasSoda said:
Still means bowls are now meaningless. It’s not about what’s best for the team. It’s about what’s best for the individual. $ changes everything
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Players have been sitting out bowls for a long time, now people want to blame $😂🤣

This stuff isn't new...now it's just more meaningless bowl games with this current playoff system
 
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chargervol said:
Thanks, that's me too. Kept everything else but no shotguns since before the kids were born. Not familiar with who's put out a lemon recently and seen some names I've never shot - in any form.
Probably gonna go familiar and cringe while he scuffs it up, just to avoid issues.


And never trust a "top 10 ___ " list on anything, usually affiliate kickback schemes. Seems they all contain a known piece of junk, no matter what you're shopping.
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Maverick 88 is the move if you want an inexpensive but reliable Mossberg to kick around imo. Love mine. A lot of part compatibility with Mossberg 500s as well.
 
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BigOrange15 said:
Right? Dudes can't wait to get here and the ones already here don't want to leave. Love to see it.
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In this new day of instant transfers, the programs and coaches that can retain kids who see how they fit the plan and genuinely respect their coaches who generally care for them will be the ones that weather this and provide stability. That’s why what Heup said what he did about kids seeing through the BS is so important and why he’s not promising anything is huge. We will miss out on some kids because of this, but our transfer rate will be much lower than the schools they go to. That’s the KPI to watch in the foreseeable future for college football.
 
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Glitch said:
Giving liquor to kids. How very @David Ubben of you.
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volinbama256 said:
LOL I wish.... they looked strong and confident in the last game and penny will have them primed to go against us. I honestly don't have a lot of confidence in our team right now with how hot and cold they've played (mentally). I've said quite a bit, the only knock I have with Barnes is his inability to have his teams mentally ready for high stakes, big games, to play consistently at a high level... If they are confident and have some swagger, they can beat anyone in the country and shoot the lights out, but if they come out timid, tense, and not confident, Memphis will embarrass them... We've already seen them go cold for long periods already several times this season, I just hope they come out with a fire in their belly's and want to stomp Memphis... we need an alpha like Admiral or Grant to get them fired up... Fulky ain't the answer...
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SweetasSoda said:
Still means bowls are now meaningless. It’s not about what’s best for the team. It’s about what’s best for the individual. $ changes everything
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Kids were skipping bowl games before this year. It’s always been about money. Which, I guess, is fitting since bowl games are only put on for the purpose of making money (though, thankfully, some of that money often goes to charities)
 
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fearsvols said:
For the guys with NIL deals I wonder if there will be language in their contracts about having to play in bowl games.
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The schools are not responsible for NIL deals (not suppressed to be anyway), and they are not supposed to incentive laden in regards to performance.
 
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SayUWantAreVOLution said:
The NCAA has no way to influence nor "facilitate" anything related to NIL. They fought hard to keep it from happening and were told it was illegal for them to interfere in NIL deals.

They LITERALLY are on the verge of having to pay guys like Peyton Manning a helluva lot of money because they sold the Manning name and didn't give him a cut AND kept him from making money from endorsements while at TN.

The NCAA will keep its nose out of NIL from now on.
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The NCAA can be the escrow account for all the moneys. They’d like to just hold the money for awhile in a vault like Scrooge McDuck, and then give it to the athletes after they’ve completed some forms, documents, background checks, bloodwork, IQ test, etc.
 
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Weezer said:
More entertaining doesn't mean they meant anything. Unless you were in title contention, they were just an extra game.
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The games MEANT something to the players and coaches. Which is why no opt outs. They felt meaningful as a fan. If they never did for you then that’s a you problem.
 
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Smokeytom said:
The games MEANT something to the players and coaches. Which is why no opt outs. They felt meaningful as a fan. If they never did for you then that’s a you problem.
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It’s a classic old school vs new school issue. I see the points on both sides. I tend to side with the old school thoughts that you don’t leave your brothers and you will cherish that time together, but I can also understand the $$$ implications for that rare event where someone gets hurt and it alters their career. That said it’s a mindset issue that can’t be changed by regulation.
 
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bigl3327 said:
The schools are not responsible for NIL deals (not suppressed to be anyway), and they are not supposed to incentive laden in regards to performance.
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But surely a company would put that in a contract? You need to earn ___ playing time. And you have to stay on ___ team for at least __ years to get the entire value of the contract. Then we’ll have boosters who organize these deals pestering the coaches themselves, and if they don’t play said guy, they threaten the AD with withholding some material value.

It feels like all this did was make the boosters more powerful. That’s my fear. Or as SSVol said, this feels less about empowerment of the athletes and more about purchasing players, until we have some sort of alteration, because this over corrected to the left very hard. We need a slight over correction to the right to find a happy medium. I don’t know what that looks like. I do not care if athletes can earn money.
 
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BigOrange15 said:
Maverick 88 is the move if you want an inexpensive but reliable Mossberg to kick around imo. Love mine. A lot of part compatibility with Mossberg 500s as well.
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Had been lucky until now, stocked on rifles and picked up a basically free Bersa .380 for him to learn on. Notorious for jamming but a friend had taught me it was simply a spring compression issue.
Pack it full, leave secure in safe for couple of months and they become issue free.
Worked like a charm and I didn't have to cringe, even after finding rust.
Well, maybe a little cringe, lol.
 
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Hey Charger if you still have that email account we corresponded on earlier go check it out, I sent you one.
Nothing earth shattering, just a question..
 
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engineerVOL said:
But surely a company would put that in a contract? You need to earn ___ playing time. And you have to stay on ___ team for at least __ years to get the entire value of the contract. Then we’ll have boosters who organize these deals pestering the coaches themselves, and if they don’t play said guy, they threaten the AD with removing donations. All this did was make the boosters more powerful. That’s my fear. Or as SSVol said, this feels less about empowerment of the athletes and more about purchasing players, until we have some sort of alteration, because this over corrected to the left very hard. We need a slight over correction to the right to find a happy medium. I don’t know what that looks like. I do not care if athletes can earn money.
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What you do in a deal like that is build in heavy incentives for something like a bowl. Total deal may be $100k that pays out $5k per game with a $40k payout for the bowl game.
 
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engineerVOL said:
But surely a company would put that in a contract? You need to earn ___ playing time. And you have to stay on ___ team for at least __ years to get the entire value of the contract. Then we’ll have boosters who organize these deals pestering the coaches themselves, and if they don’t play said guy, they threaten the AD with withholding some material value. All this did was make the boosters more powerful. That’s my fear. Or as SSVol said, this feels less about empowerment of the athletes and more about purchasing players, until we have some sort of alteration, because this over corrected to the left very hard. We need a slight over correction to the right to find a happy medium. I don’t know what that looks like. I do not care if athletes can earn money.
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I am in agreement. I hate NIL in its current form. Especially when it's not the same across the board, and state politicians can amend the guidelines any time they choose to benefit their universities.
 
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