Recruiting Forum Football Talk IV

[Vol Main]

Good signing day. Tennessee just got stronger.

 

[Nash_Vol97]

Swear it just felt like Urban was trying to get fired.

 

[tnvols72]

I will never forget, at the beginning of the national title season, he was saying, "If not now, then when?" even though a lot of people were pointing out all the deficiencies we had.

He was so good while here. Listening to him just shows how much he loves UT and then when you hear Kesling ,he sounds like he is on life support and not for sure who he is pulling for.

 

[tnvols72]

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Urban wishes they had fired him 2 weeks ago and he could be setting up shop in Gainesville. I do not think too many schools will fool with this fraud from here on out. But Fla would

 

[mr.checkerboards]

What happened to some healthy message board banter and debate? Guess its naive groupthink or bust on here.

I’m very happy about today but if you don’t see how razor thin we are at LB, Im not sure what to tell you.

Nope not allowed by our comrades. Must all think a like and be positive

 

[bigl3327]

How? They suck

They had one of the rare years where they had a lot of instate talent. People take a lot of stock in these signing day rankings, but for it to matter these kids have to
1. Stay in your program
2. Be developed
3. Have coaches that can maximize those talents from an X's and O's standpoint

 

[bigl3327]

Not an elite class, but a plenty good enough class — especially if we can add Verse. Schedule actually sets up pretty well next year, IMO. Go win 9+ next year hopefully and think we will be able to close with a really nice class next year and never look back.

This class may not appear elite by the services, but that doesn't mean it's not elite in this system.

 

[mrmax86]

Swear it just felt like Urban was trying to get fired.

I’m sure that will be something the lawyers will help sort out as he’s due $50M of a buyout currently. Horse crap!

 

[Glocker_Alum_2005]

Needs to retire and fade away, but it wouldn't surprise me if he tries to return to college ball.

Ladies and gents your next FSU coach.

 

[UTSuave’]

Lane Kiffin reacts to nation’s top recruit signing with Deion Sanders, Jackson State

 

[Checker_the_Shire]

Still have some work to do. I'd like to see us ahead of Mizzou and UK, but CJH has definitely over achieved with what he inherited.

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I think we are ahead of them. Unless I’m reading this graphic wrong, our ranking on the left hand side says 4 while UK’s says 5 and Mizzou’s 9. Our average and points are even higher than both. I think your graphic is out of order for some odd reason.

 

[InVOLuntary]

I think we are ahead of them. Unless I’m reading this graphic wrong, our ranking on the left hand side says 4 while UK’s says 5 and Mizzou’s 9. Our average and points are even higher than both. I think your graphic is out of order for some odd reason.

It's sorted by average rating.

 

[Christian Lowe]

This game is DOA. Gonna play just like Madden does.

 

[Vols4us]

I do think we can close the book on the “CJH can’t recruit bullish!+”
job well done Coach

This ^

The brilliance and amount of work put in by this staff has been incredible. We have our coach/staff.

 

[rekinhavoc]

Swear it just felt like Urban was trying to get fired.

I thought the same thing. What college job is he angling for?

 

[Vols4us]

Day 11 of the non-COVID Tennessee Crud. Just enough to make a guy PO'd due to lack of sleep from prednisone, but not enough to keep me from reflecting on a big day for Volnation yesterday. Take a bow Coach Heup and staff. With the crud in mind - BVS should have been cured by what happened yesterday. We still have to recover our stamina (depth) and rebuild out immunity (defense), but it's time to go to work and win.

The past:

GNM #3: If at first the game - or the breaks - go against you, don't let up... put on more steam.

UT, UTAD, previous coaching staffs, and major boosters created a situation where the breaks went against the program - for two decades. It began the long, slow decline when Joe Johnson and Doug Dickey retired. You younger fans need to pay attention to what I just posted - us old geezers know it well. You set up victory or defeat well in advance of it ever happening from the vision, planning and plan implementation before a game is played.

Doug Dickey would have never allowed Phil Fulmer to sit and play the dog, get lazy, be overly loyal to his assistants, or otherwise allow anything to circumvent what took so long to rebuild while he was the AD and Johnson and his predecessors were running UT. Enter retirement for both, loss of control, and incompetence in their places. Repeatedly. Compounding errors and omissions. While major supporters looked on and patted each other on the backs with how smart they all were for winning '98. Let's build some more facilities and have our names put on them. Love the new building, practice fields, and all the trappings of success - until they are pointless in sustaining a winning program.

Pride goes before destruction, a haughty spirit before a fall. Prov. 16:18.

Right, Urban? Sorry, had to. The next post puts on the orange colored glasses.

 

[Vols4us]

Enter Randy Boyd and Donde Plowman. Don't care if you think Donde is a witch, we should care about results. Randy Boyd and the BOT hired her. So she gets to prove her worth like everybody else.

Who hired Danny White? Who signed off on hiring Heup and staff? Who knew the value of the sports programs such that they committed to along with their excellence? Boyd has been deep into it with the Smokies and a lifelong BO supporter. Plowman was deep into NU and now the BO. They know, which is half the battle won before the action starts.

How much support does Barnes and Voltello and their programs receive? Who brought participation in the future development of campus sports facilities and programs back to the fans, the people, instead of consolidating it all into the hands of the wealthy few along with much, much more?

So. let's address the elephant in the room - NCAA sanctions. The last remaining potential symptom of BVS. The NCAA has been involved since it was called out by UT on themselves. It's a negotiated resolution. They did not have to use a lot of investigative resource during a turbulent time in their history as well as all collegiate athletics. It's going to be OK. In essence it is already worked out IMO. We have a blue blooded AD with blue blooded law firm doing the work. We good here.

Are we going bowling this season? Would we go bowling if if any future sanctions would include loss of bowls? Probably not. CJH took 20 signees yesterday. Will not taking the 25 allowed while using the transfer portal for and extra 5-7 guys they need be the method instead. That allows for a cushion for a self imposed loss of scholarships sanction while still rebuilding the roster. We will know by February. If Heup signs the 25, I doubt there will be any self imposed sanction on it. That leaves a program probationary period and show causes to Cornbread and applicable staff members, which are well earned and deserved.

Next - roster development.

 

[JCP201]

Swear it just felt like Urban was trying to get fired.

So, would you get a buyout if you go around kicking people? I don't know any other job that is that forgiving.

 

[ryan990]

Enter Randy Boyd and Donde Plowman. Don't care if you think Donde is a witch, we should care about results. Randy Boyd and the BOT hired her. So she gets to prove her worth like everybody else.

Who hired Danny White? Who signed off on hiring Heup and staff? Who knew the value of the sports programs such that they committed to along with their excellence? Boyd has been deep into it with the Smokies and a lifelong BO supporter. Plowman was deep into NU and now the BO. They know, which is half the battle won before the action starts.

How much support does Barnes and Voltello and their programs receive? Who brought participation in the future development of campus sports facilities and programs back to the fans, the people, instead of consolidating it all into the hands of the wealthy few along with much, much more?

So. let's address the elephant in the room - NCAA sanctions. The last remaining potential symptom of BVS. The NCAA has been involved since it was called out by UT on themselves. It's a negotiated resolution. They did not have to use a lot of investigative resource during a turbulent time in their history as well as all collegiate athletics. It's going to be OK. In essence it is already worked out IMO. We have a blue blooded AD with blue blooded law firm doing the work. We good here.

Are we going bowling this season? Would we go bowling if if any future sanctions would include loss of bowls? Probably not. CJH took 20 signees yesterday. Will not taking the 25 allowed while using the transfer portal for and extra 5-7 guys they need be the method instead. That allows for a cushion for a self imposed loss of scholarships sanction while still rebuilding the roster. We will know by February. If Heup signs the 25, I doubt there will be any self imposed sanction on it. That leaves a program probationary period and show causes to Cornbread and applicable staff members, which are well earned and deserved.

Next - roster development.

Stop. You're being way too rational for VolNation.

 

[Glocker_Alum_2005]

I thought the same thing. What college job is he angling for?

FSU?

 

[JCP201]

Ladies and gents your next FSU coach.

I wouldn't doubt it.

 

[OGbabyaviVol]

Ladies and gents your next FSU coach.

Would be great for us honestly. He would weaken Florida and maybe even Georgia some, although Napier is doing a pretty good job on his own weakening Florida.

 

[Fun coupon VOL]

I think the most infuriating thing to start off a morning is having computer issue and then proceeding to have to wait on HD to get in the office.

 

[OGbabyaviVol]

Day 11 of the non-COVID Tennessee Crud. Just enough to make a guy PO'd due to lack of sleep from prednisone, but not enough to keep me from reflecting on a big day for Volnation yesterday. Take a bow Coach Heup and staff. With the crud in mind - BVS should have been cured by what happened yesterday. We still have to recover our stamina (depth) and rebuild out immunity (defense), but it's time to go to work and win.

The past:

GNM #3: If at first the game - or the breaks - go against you, don't let up... put on more steam.

UT, UTAD, previous coaching staffs, and major boosters created a situation where the breaks went against the program - for two decades. It began the long, slow decline when Joe Johnson and Doug Dickey retired. You younger fans need to pay attention to what I just posted - us old geezers know it well. You set up victory or defeat well in advance of it ever happening from the vision, planning and plan implementation before a game is played.

Doug Dickey would have never allowed Phil Fulmer to sit and play the dog, get lazy, be overly loyal to his assistants, or otherwise allow anything to circumvent what took so long to rebuild while he was the AD and Johnson and his predecessors were running UT. Enter retirement for both, loss of control, and incompetence in their places. Repeatedly. Compounding errors and omissions. While major supporters looked on and patted each other on the backs with how smart they all were for winning '98. Let's build some more facilities and have our names put on them. Love the new building, practice fields, and all the trappings of success - until they are pointless in sustaining a winning program.

Pride goes before destruction, a haughty spirit before a fall. Prov. 16:18.

Right, Urban? Sorry, had to. The next post puts on the orange colored glasses.

Enter Randy Boyd and Donde Plowman. Don't care if you think Donde is a witch, we should care about results. Randy Boyd and the BOT hired her. So she gets to prove her worth like everybody else.

Who hired Danny White? Who signed off on hiring Heup and staff? Who knew the value of the sports programs such that they committed to along with their excellence? Boyd has been deep into it with the Smokies and a lifelong BO supporter. Plowman was deep into NU and now the BO. They know, which is half the battle won before the action starts.

How much support does Barnes and Voltello and their programs receive? Who brought participation in the future development of campus sports facilities and programs back to the fans, the people, instead of consolidating it all into the hands of the wealthy few along with much, much more?

So. let's address the elephant in the room - NCAA sanctions. The last remaining potential symptom of BVS. The NCAA has been involved since it was called out by UT on themselves. It's a negotiated resolution. They did not have to use a lot of investigative resource during a turbulent time in their history as well as all collegiate athletics. It's going to be OK. In essence it is already worked out IMO. We have a blue blooded AD with blue blooded law firm doing the work. We good here.

Are we going bowling this season? Would we go bowling if if any future sanctions would include loss of bowls? Probably not. CJH took 20 signees yesterday. Will not taking the 25 allowed while using the transfer portal for and extra 5-7 guys they need be the method instead. That allows for a cushion for a self imposed loss of scholarships sanction while still rebuilding the roster. We will know by February. If Heup signs the 25, I doubt there will be any self imposed sanction on it. That leaves a program probationary period and show causes to Cornbread and applicable staff members, which are well earned and deserved.

Next - roster development.

 

[nicksjuzunk]

Urban Meyer finally fired.