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ACvol3 said:
It’s very obvious that they’re buying these players somehow. If I were to guess, I’d say it’s more than legal NIL deals. They didn’t do anything this season to warrant such an uptick in their recruiting all of a sudden
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Tennessee must be offering Gift cards to Applebees or something.
 
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ACvol3 said:
It’s very obvious that they’re buying these players somehow. If I were to guess, I’d say it’s more than legal NIL deals. They didn’t do anything this season to warrant such an uptick in their recruiting all of a sudden
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Crazy stupid class this year. But they’ve recruited well.

2019 - 4th
2020 - 6th
2021 - 8th

Now they’re just doing whatever Bama and UGA do
 
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Girth Brooks said:
That penalty wasn’t “canceled” out with Pitt being awarded the ball. I brought this up several times when it happened, but there were two options on the table:

1) we eat our penalty from the spot of the foul, pinning us around the 5 or so
2) WE decline Pitt’s penalty and force a re-kick

We took the latter. It wasn’t rule-bending.



Everyone keeps pointing to that but leaves out the fact that pinning Ole Miss deep on their next possession led to 9 points (safety and immediate TD). We score 7 there, we don’t get 9. Furthermore, if the game goes exactly the same as it did, and Tillman makes the catch at the end, it’s a tied game with the PAT (happening the way it did wins it). Let’s not be revisionist homers.
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On the OM issue. There is no way to say what would have happened on the following drive in either case. All we know for sure is that the bad call swapped 2 for 7. Your assumption is reasonable, but you never know what impact a play like that will or won't have.
 
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InVOLuntary said:
We're not talking about results on the field, we're talking about recruiting. Players are not going to choose programs based on success on the field. TN "Here's $100K in NIL. Come be a Vol" Georgia:"Here's $500K, come be a dog." Not really a hard choice. Obviously, the teams with the best players are going to be the better teams.

Also, keep in mind that this NIL stuff is brand new. GA, AL, TAMU have been paying players under the table for years. Now the cloak has been removed. All it does is allow them to pay more. It's going to be a bidding war. We're seeing it now. It's the NFL without a salary cap.
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Let’s wait and see once 2022 is here. I think some people are finally starting to wake up. This class was always going to be tough no matter what. If next years class is mediocre and our NIL is bad, then I’ll start to worry.
 
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SweetasSoda said:
So after mass chaos it will eventually balance out? But what if mass amounts of fans grow sick of all of it before it balances? I have to admit I am already much less excited about recruiting and keeping up with who’s on the team.
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Why the hell fans care about how much some player gets is beyond me.

What, those fans were happy when they could pretend this fairly tale existed of noble players giving it all for the U and studying chemistry on a Sunday night, while not getting paid a dime? These people probably think the Olympics were better, too, when they promoted a fraudulent idea of amateurism.

Recruiting will still happen. The games will still happen. It'll be fine. Change is the way of the world.
 
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drylo said:
Paying kids $1M off of high school tape is a better way to go broke than betting 25-leg parlays every week (👀 @Enki_Amenra).
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Listen here…hoss idk who you think you are but @Enki_Amenra is my parlay friend and I don’t like how you’re telling him where his money should and shouldn’t go…I’ll be at the Waffle House 😂😂😂😂😂

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VN moving to fast for my interest these days. Not going through 80 pages. Someone catch me up on the new NIL situation for UT that I’m seeing talked about in player threads
 
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Unimane said:
Why the hell fans care about how much some player gets is beyond me.

What, those fans were happy when they could pretend this fairly tale existed of noble players giving it all for the U and studying chemistry on a Sunday night, while not getting paid a dime? These people probably think the Olympics were better, too, when they promoted a fraudulent idea of amateurism.

Recruiting will still happen. The games will still happen. It'll be fine. Change is the way of the world.
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People are always excited about change...until change comes, and it isn’t at all what they wanted or expected. And I hate to burst your bubble but there actually was a time when noble players gave their all for the university they played for, and they appreciated the degree they were getting also. Funny thing is, I have not watched any Olympics or pro basketball/football in a while. Always loved college football and recruiting. Already beginning to become apathetic to recruiting although come here often for the fans here. Whether you comprehend what other fans think about it doesn’t change the facts that some fans are more into the emotion/tradition of the game than professional athletes. We will see going forward how many fans are in which camp, and the effect it has on the game. Can’t wait.
 
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SweetasSoda said:
People are always excited about change...until change comes, and it isn’t at all what they wanted or expected. And I hate to burst your bubble but there actually was a time when noble players gave their all for the university they played for, and they appreciated the degree they were getting also. Funny thing is, I have not watched any Olympics or pro basketball/football in a while. Always loved college football and recruiting. Already beginning to become apathetic to recruiting although come here often for the fans here. Whether you comprehend what other fans think about it doesn’t change the facts that some fans are more into the emotion/tradition of the game than professional athletes. We will see going forward how many fans are in which camp, and the effect it has on the game. Can’t wait.
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So, yeah, as I said, some fans buy into the fairy tale nonsense. And, this idea of a time when "noble players gave their all for the university they played for" is about as similarly nostalgic silliness as believing America was something quaint and desirable in the 1950s or whenever.

I know what those fans are thinking. I'm saying it's stupid and selfish. They didn't care when the coaches got millions, nor anyone collecting bank in the athletic departments, among a whole host of other significant changes. But, now, the kids!! The horror! If the players getting a cut is a bridge too far, then they can go watch intramural softball or whatever to soothe their sentimental nature.

Most of all, beyond the absurdity and selfishness, it's unnecessary. Kids are still going to pick colleges as they have previously by motivations mostly unknown to regular fans. Above all, the game is still the same. Tennessee will still play Florida, Georgia, and Alabama and it will look the same.

Well, hopefully, not entirely the same.
 
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I was just looking at TAMU's recruiting. They currently have 21 commits. They're second in team rankings, just behind Georgia. But they are the crystal ball favorites for 4 more 5* players and 3 more 4* players. I have no idea how many they can sign.

3 more 5* players are considering them, but they are not currently the crystal ball favorites. The class they are building off of a mediocre season is unreal. Some deep pockets have opened up at TAMU and they're buying a mega class.
 
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Unimane said:
Why the hell fans care about how much some player gets is beyond me.

What, those fans were happy when they could pretend this fairly tale existed of noble players giving it all for the U and studying chemistry on a Sunday night, while not getting paid a dime? These people probably think the Olympics were better, too, when they promoted a fraudulent idea of amateurism.

Recruiting will still happen. The games will still happen. It'll be fine. Change is the way of the world.
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This is so shortsighted and over simplified...this is about fairness. If you literally legalize a few megateams that have hundreds of millionaire fanatics willing/able to buy up all the elite talent, then CFB becomes nothing more than a bunch of Harlem Globetrotters-Washington Generals exhibition games.

I assume you are a Vol fan...it is fairly evident that we don't have the guys willing, or maybe since Pruitts shenanigans "able" is the better word for it...so are you ok with being consigned to being TV exhibition game "cannon fodder" for the schools that are buying up all the elite talent?
 
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Another thing...we have tons of posters on here calling out our staff for "bad to mediocre" recruiting...but are they really bad to mediocre recruiters, or are their hands being cut off by all this money 🦬💩?

I am concerned that our fanbase will hold the staff accountable for something that they have zero control over.

If our back room money guys don't start helping the staff out soon, we are going to get priced into the SEC basement.
 
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Unimane said:
So, yeah, as I said, some fans buy into the fairy tale nonsense. And, this idea of a time when "noble players gave their all for the university they played for" is about as similarly nostalgic silliness as believing America was something quaint and desirable in the 1950s or whenever.

I know what those fans are thinking. I'm saying it's stupid and selfish. They didn't care when the coaches got millions, nor anyone collecting bank in the athletic departments, among a whole host of other significant changes. But, now, the kids!! The horror! If the players getting a cut is a bridge too far, then they can go watch intramural softball or whatever to soothe their sentimental nature.

Most of all, beyond the absurdity and selfishness, it's unnecessary. Kids are still going to pick colleges as they have previously by motivations mostly unknown to regular fans. Above all, the game is still the same. Tennessee will still play Florida, Georgia, and Alabama and it will look the same.

Well, hopefully, not entirely the same.
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Good bye 🙋‍♂️
 
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