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InVOLuntary said:
Venables has forgotten more than Pruitt has ever known. Pruitt's only expertise was his ability to buy players and he wasn't very good at that when people cared whether you cheated or not. Pruitt was a conman fraud.
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Lol let’s not get to into our feels. Pruitt was definitely an X’s and O’s guy. That doesn’t always translate to being a good Head Coach though.
 
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SSVol said:
Pruitt was clearly able to call plays for elite players taught fundamentals by competent position coaches. That is demonstrated by stat improvements at three schools. He had no clue how to do that himself. Those two things aren't mutually exclusive.
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Pruitt is a good race car driver.

He has absolutely no idea how to design, build, or diagnose problems with a race car himself.
 
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cHiZzLeVOL said:
Lol let’s not get to into our feels. Pruitt was definitely an X’s and O’s guy. That doesn’t always translate to being a good Head Coach though.
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If he was all that as a defensive guru, our defenses would have been better here. Our defenses sucked. Heuple is a great example of a coach that knows his stuff. This offense was as good as we've had since Cut left, with a depleted, rag tag, group of players.

This has nothing to do with my feels. This has nothing to do with the win/loss record. This has everything to do with the pathetic defenses he fielded here.

If you look at his career, he ridden the coattails of great head coaches and great players. He's never done anything on his own. He's never had to produce more with less. He's a complete fraud.
 
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InVOLuntary said:
If he was all that as a defensive guru, our defenses would have been better here. Our defenses sucked. Heuple is a great example of a coach that knows his stuff. This offense was as good as we've had since Cut left, with a depleted, rag tag, group of players.

This has nothing to do with my feels. This has nothing to do with the win/loss record. This has everything to do with the pathetic defenses he fielded here.

If you look at his career, he ridden the coattails of great head coaches and great players. He's never done anything on his own. He's never had to produce more with less. He's a complete fraud.
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Well again like I said that doesn’t mean he isn’t a good X’s and O’s guy lol. Just means he isn’t a good Head Coach.

Auburn when he was mic’d up is an example of him knowing what he is doing but his players not being able to do it or not seeing it. But that’s also on him for not being able to have them prepared.
 
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InVOLuntary said:
If he was all that as a defensive guru, our defenses would have been better here. Our defenses sucked. Heuple is a great example of a coach that knows his stuff. This offense was as good as we've had since Cut left, with a depleted, rag tag, group of players.

This has nothing to do with my feels. This has nothing to do with the win/loss record. This has everything to do with the pathetic defenses he fielded here.

If you look at his career, he ridden the coattails of great head coaches and great players. He's never done anything on his own. He's never had to produce more with less. He's a complete fraud.
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"Complete fraud" is different from "bad head coach." Pruitt is perfectly fine at some aspects of football coaching.

I am an employee at a company, do a job for them, and I guess am pretty good at it, but I would probably fail if I started by own business. Am I a complete fraud?
 
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Brillovol said:
I've been pleased with every major move so far.
  • No major staff changes? So far, so good
  • Weaken Clemson? Check
  • Florida meh hire? Check
  • Miami good hire? Check
  • LSU chameleon hire? Check
By my count, every one of these weakens our rivals or recruiting rivals. We're winning for now.
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Harsin staying at Auburn with no OC hire yet? Check
 
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05_never_again said:
"Complete fraud" is different from "bad head coach." Pruitt is perfectly fine at some aspects of football coaching.

I am an employee at a company, do a job for them, and I guess am pretty good at it, but I would probably fail if I started by own business. Am I a complete fraud?
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Different situation in your analogy, but if you start a business by claiming to be an expert in something you know nothing about, then you'd have the potential to, in fact, be labeled a complete fraud.

There is an element that Proot represented himself as a Head Football coach, the fact that he convinced someone to believe him (in this case a former head football coach), when he indeed was not HC material but just a good position coach/coordinator could leave him open to being called a fraud, if he intentionally misrepresented himself.

It's hard to say that he did anything but that, not based on the results, but based on the methodology he implemented. IE: copying Bama's blueprint of an actual HC, trying to shortcut areas where he had no knowledge base, etc.

To me this is the most glaring difference between Coach Hype and every other coach we've hired since Fulmer. He knows he's an actual HC, knows that there's no shortcut to be had to replace the work required. Knows what his culture and program should look like (not a copy of someone else's), etc.
 
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