To Protect and to Serve II

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hndog609 said:
Court Rejects Qualified Immunity For Cop Who Arrested Gun Owner Carrying Valid Permit
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These cops will use anything for probable cause.

Us against Them... and we are behind on the scorecards with cuts over our eyes.

At oral argument, Andrzejewski claimed that his “conduct was still justified because he had probable cause to believe [Soukaneh] was possessing a firearm without a permit as he had not yet been able to verify the validity of the permit.” In other words, because Soukaneh “disclosed he had a weapon in the vehicle,” that gave him probable cause to search and seize Soukaneh. In Connecticut, carrying a pistol in a car without a permit is a Class D felony.
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PICTURED: Career Criminal, 31, Who Shot Dead Houston Police Vet of 31-years and injured another cop when they tried to serve arrest warrant at his home, before he was killed by police

A veteran cop was killed and another was wounded while executing a warrant in Houston early Monday morning.

The suspect has since been identified by family members as Deon Ledet, 31, who has a criminal record dating back to 2008.

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Deon Ledet, 31, was identified by family members as the suspect who shot and killed a veteran cop and injured another while they were at his house on an arrest warrant early Monday morning

William 'Bill' Jeffrey died in hospital on Monday after the early morning shootout. His partner Sgt. Michael Vance was also shot and taken to the hospital where he remains in a stable condition.

Suspect named in shooting that left Houston police vet dead, wounded another cop in raid | Daily Mail Online
 
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Half the problem is the cop that actually carried out this arrest, but certainly the other half goes to us (civilians) for even reporting this crap. The cop and the cashier need their asses whipped.

Homeless Pennsylvania man faces 7 years for allegedly underpaying for Mountain Dew by 43 cents

Joseph Sobolewski walked into a convenience store in Perry County where there was a special for 20-ounce Mountain Dew bottles: 2 for $3.

Sobolewski took one bottle, put down $2 on the counter and walked out, PennLive reported. The store called the police and he was arrested. What Sobolewski may not have known was that a single bottle of Mountain Dew cost $2.29, not $1.50.
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NurseGoodVol said:
7 years for under a dollar. Don’t care what his history is, let me say that again. 7 years for under a buck. People get less than that for manslaughter.
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He didn’t get 7 years for just that. He got 7 years because as per his probation from multiple other felonies.
 
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Rickyvol77 said:
He didn’t get 7 years for just that. He got 7 years because as per his probation from multiple other felonies.
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There is a difference between what is legal and what is just (justice).

Justice was not served here. But you didn't disappoint me because I knew you would come in and support this because it was "legal".
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
There is a difference between what is legal and what is just (justice).

Justice was not served here. But you didn't disappoint me because I knew you would come in and support this because it was "legal".
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He signed off as part of his probation that he knew that any further crime would be his third strike. How can you not understand this
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
I never said that arresting him wasn't legal.
I'm simply saying that this is not justice.
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What should happen to someone who constantly breaks the law, then signs an agreeement to be let out of prison and knows he can’t do anything illegal again and then purposefully does it again?
 
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Rickyvol77 said:
What should happen to someone who constantly breaks the law, then signs an agreeement to be let out of prison and knows he can’t do anything illegal again and then purposefully does it again?
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He purposefully paid $2 for a 2 for $3 drink...

And as a result, the taxpayers are on the hook to give him 3 hots and a cot for 7 more years. That doesn't make judicial sense or fiscal sense. But it is legal.
 
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Rickyvol77 said:
What should happen to someone who constantly breaks the law, then signs an agreeement to be let out of prison and knows he can’t do anything illegal again and then purposefully does it again?
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A modern day John Dillinger apparently.
So he actually shorted the store by 43 cents, or 29 cents for the bottle plus tax. He is being held on a $50,000 bond and faces up to seven years in prison.
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Rasputin_Vol said:
He purposefully paid $2 for a 2 for $3 drink...

And as a result, the taxpayers are on the hook to give him 3 hots and a cot for 7 more years. That doesn't make judicial sense or fiscal sense. But it is legal.
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He stole something regardless if it was 50 cents or $3000. And when given the opportunity to correct the crime he told the clerk to basically F off. The guy should’ve never been let out after the first 10 or so thefts
 
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Rickyvol77 said:
He stole something regardless if it was 50 cents or $3000. And when given the opportunity to correct the crime he told the clerk to basically F off. The guy should’ve never been let out after the first 10 or so thefts
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And the solution was for the guy to go to jail for 7 years over a 43 cent infraction? You are not close to being rational or just. But hey, you follow those laws to the letter.

I bet you cannot wait to take the guns away from the "sovereign citizens" when that time comes. Because this is the mindset that you will carry when it comes time to do that.
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
And the solution was for the guy to go to jail for 7 years over a 43 cent infraction? You are not close to being rational or just. But hey, you follow those laws to the letter.

I bet you cannot wait to take the guns away from the "sovereign citizens" when that time comes. Because this is the mindset that you will carry when it comes time to do that.
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I don’t see what else you expect to do with a career criminal that constantly does the same thing 20-30 times
 
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Rickyvol77 said:
I don’t see what else you expect to do with a career criminal that constantly does the same thing 20-30 times
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It could have been resolved for pennies. Now the taxpayer is on the hook.

Not every minor infraction needs end in arrest. To eve think of this as criminal activity is a stretch.
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
It could have been resolved for pennies. Now the taxpayer is on the hook.

Not every minor infraction needs end in arrest. To eve think of this as criminal activity is a stretch.
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And the incident by itself it would’ve been handled differently. But as per his probation and the long history of thefts and other stuff, it all adds up
 
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