To Protect and to Serve II

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NurseGoodVol said:
7 years for under a dollar. Don’t care what his history is, let me say that again. 7 years for under a buck. People get less than that for manslaughter.
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He didn’t get 7 years for just that. He got 7 years because as per his probation from multiple other felonies.
 
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Rickyvol77 said:
He didn’t get 7 years for just that. He got 7 years because as per his probation from multiple other felonies.
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There is a difference between what is legal and what is just (justice).

Justice was not served here. But you didn't disappoint me because I knew you would come in and support this because it was "legal".
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
There is a difference between what is legal and what is just (justice).

Justice was not served here. But you didn't disappoint me because I knew you would come in and support this because it was "legal".
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He signed off as part of his probation that he knew that any further crime would be his third strike. How can you not understand this
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
I never said that arresting him wasn't legal.
I'm simply saying that this is not justice.
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What should happen to someone who constantly breaks the law, then signs an agreeement to be let out of prison and knows he can’t do anything illegal again and then purposefully does it again?
 
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Rickyvol77 said:
What should happen to someone who constantly breaks the law, then signs an agreeement to be let out of prison and knows he can’t do anything illegal again and then purposefully does it again?
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He purposefully paid $2 for a 2 for $3 drink...

And as a result, the taxpayers are on the hook to give him 3 hots and a cot for 7 more years. That doesn't make judicial sense or fiscal sense. But it is legal.
 
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Rickyvol77 said:
What should happen to someone who constantly breaks the law, then signs an agreeement to be let out of prison and knows he can’t do anything illegal again and then purposefully does it again?
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A modern day John Dillinger apparently.
So he actually shorted the store by 43 cents, or 29 cents for the bottle plus tax. He is being held on a $50,000 bond and faces up to seven years in prison.
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Rasputin_Vol said:
He purposefully paid $2 for a 2 for $3 drink...

And as a result, the taxpayers are on the hook to give him 3 hots and a cot for 7 more years. That doesn't make judicial sense or fiscal sense. But it is legal.
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He stole something regardless if it was 50 cents or $3000. And when given the opportunity to correct the crime he told the clerk to basically F off. The guy should’ve never been let out after the first 10 or so thefts
 
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Rickyvol77 said:
He stole something regardless if it was 50 cents or $3000. And when given the opportunity to correct the crime he told the clerk to basically F off. The guy should’ve never been let out after the first 10 or so thefts
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And the solution was for the guy to go to jail for 7 years over a 43 cent infraction? You are not close to being rational or just. But hey, you follow those laws to the letter.

I bet you cannot wait to take the guns away from the "sovereign citizens" when that time comes. Because this is the mindset that you will carry when it comes time to do that.
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
And the solution was for the guy to go to jail for 7 years over a 43 cent infraction? You are not close to being rational or just. But hey, you follow those laws to the letter.

I bet you cannot wait to take the guns away from the "sovereign citizens" when that time comes. Because this is the mindset that you will carry when it comes time to do that.
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I don’t see what else you expect to do with a career criminal that constantly does the same thing 20-30 times
 
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Rickyvol77 said:
I don’t see what else you expect to do with a career criminal that constantly does the same thing 20-30 times
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It could have been resolved for pennies. Now the taxpayer is on the hook.

Not every minor infraction needs end in arrest. To eve think of this as criminal activity is a stretch.
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
It could have been resolved for pennies. Now the taxpayer is on the hook.

Not every minor infraction needs end in arrest. To eve think of this as criminal activity is a stretch.
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And the incident by itself it would’ve been handled differently. But as per his probation and the long history of thefts and other stuff, it all adds up
 
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Rickyvol77 said:
And the incident by itself it would’ve been handled differently. But as per his probation and the long history of thefts and other stuff, it all adds up
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And again, you keep hammering on and on about how it is lawful and legal. I'm pointing out that it is bad law because ridiculous situations like this.

You obviously see nothing wrong with the law.
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
And again, you keep hammering on and on about how it is lawful and legal. I'm pointing out that it is bad law because ridiculous situations like this.

You obviously see nothing wrong with the law.
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So again do you believe that criminals should be allowed to commit crimes over and over again?
 
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When I go into a store and see a 10 for $10 sign and I take 3 items to checkout they charge me $3 bucks +tax. On a 2 for $5 and I only buy 1 item I get charged $2.50 + tax. It’s been that way in various stores across multiple states for years.

Was there a sign next to the 2 for $3 clearly stating that single item purchases would be charged full price? Did he actually know at that specific time he was committing a crime via underpaying?
People are upset because it’s a bullcrap crime. It’s very highly likely that millions of people in this country, especially at a convenience store, would see a 2 for $3 sign, grab one thinking $1.50+tax, as is normal in the majority of places, hold up the single item, put money on the counter and tell the clerk, “hey, these are 2/$3, I only got one, here’s $2 bucks, keep the change” and walk out of the store.

His previous record nor probation requirements change the fact that it was bullcrap to begin with.
 
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If ricky is willing to arrest you and support a 7 year sentence over 43 cents, I just have to laugh at the folks who keep saying the police are on your side and they won't follow liberty infringing instructions that they don't agree with. They'll just do what ricky is doing and rationalize whatever they are asked to do because muh laws and muh pension.
 
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MercyPercy said:
If ricky is willing to arrest you and support a 7 year sentence over 43 cents, I just have to laugh at the folks who keep saying the police are on your side and they won't follow liberty infringing instructions that they don't agree with. They'll just do what ricky is doing and rationalize whatever they are asked to do because muh laws and muh pension.
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I've been screaming that for years. We have far too many people on the right that have an unhealthy worship of LEOs. They will ram open your doors and take your guns the minute the order is given.
 
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