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Vols4us said:
Any QB who does not get enough first team reps in practice and games - you will see what we saw out of HB. Doesn't matter who they are. Unfair comparison. He may really be the #3, but compare apples to apples.
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He had his chance with the 1’s in camp and was inconsistent like you saw Saturday.
 
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JT3 said:
I think Milton starts this week but will have a short leash if we can't generate points or if his deep ball accuracy is still way off.

I envision us taking a lot of shots against Florida ..
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There should be several chances to hit on some long throws....and it’ll be hard to stay in the game without hitting multiple ones.
 
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JT3 said:
I think Milton starts this week but will have a short leash if we can't generate points or if his deep ball accuracy is still way off.

I envision us taking a lot of shots against Florida ..
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I agree with this. If he’s still missing we shift to Hooker and start trying to run the ball a lot
 
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Nashvegas31 said:
People need to remember years in school doesn’t mean years of experience game wise. It helps in strength and conditioning but there is still maturity to be had on the field.

For example, we like to say oh Joe Milton hasn’t figured it out in 3 years. Well his first two years he was 3rd strong behind Shae Patterson and another guy so how many reps was he getting? Then his first year as starter was a pandemic year with an abbreviated offseason especially in big ten. He doesn’t have a spring and shows up here and has 15 practices to get ready.

So with WRs poor figure running comment…. Do you expect perfection in route running from what this staff has tried to tell everyone is a young inexperienced group. Your most experienced WR was Jones and Payton and their number prior to here don’t scream veteran superstar so they too have things to improve on and staff to figure out how to use them. Jones had injury in preseason camp and staff starting to figure out best ways to use him based on last two games. Callaway is the stud playmaker of this group that needs a lot of touches in space but his fall camp injury has forced staff to be cautious with him. Still he didn’t play WR in Hs. Hyatt is an all world talent that is way too in his head right now and needs some short stuff imo to get him going then hit him deep. Tillman is old but this is his first time seeing significant action. Merril is a freshman that missed most of spring and was limited with the knee in summer. All this to say I see no reason to worry about this group yet and I see lots of playmaking potential and a scheme that can let them work if QB gets them ball.

What I would be concerned with is OL and TE blocking and RB pass protection. This OL goes as Cooper goes. Without him we become weak at G. The first two drives with him we were mauling as an OL unit. After we have been inconsistent. Carvin at G and Cooper at C makes the OL a lot better. At same time we need better pass pro from the RBs not named Tiyon. Hyatt has a TD Saturday if Wright picks up the blitz. Fant whiffed on several blocks in run game that kept backs from getting to the hole.

I’m hoping with Cooper back we see a much different OL in run game and tempo. This is a game where you really could wear down Florida after a game with Bama if you can string some
Drives together. They showed their hand vs Bama so shouldn’t be many surprises. Maybe this is when we finally connect in the deep balls lol
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Agree, we'll need to gameplan for Anthony Richardson as well even though he didn't play in the Bama game (I'm sure the coaches probably are).
 
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Bassmaster_Vol said:
It’s the truth Brillo

Hooker Passing Chart
20+ Left: 1/4, 29 yards, TD to Payton, DPI

Middle: 0/2

Right: 0/1 (DPI called)

11-20 yards:

Left: N/A

Middle: N/A

Right: 1/1, 11 yards

0-10 yards:
left: 8/8, 116 yards, TD to Velus

Middle: 1/2, 7 yards

Right: 2/3, 11 yards, TD to Warren

Behind LOS:

Left: 4/4, 26 yards

N/A

Right: 1/2, 3 yards
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11 of 17 completions within 10 yards, yet they netted 134 yards and 2 TD's. FYI, that's 12 yards per completion. That's called scheme, bro. Oh, and he threw it "deep" 7 times and netted either a first down or TD 3 of those. That's a 42% success rate. Not to mention our leading rusher and extends plays with his legs.

He moves the sticks and gives us at least a chance. I'll take that over Uncle Rico.
 
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UpstateVol613 said:
Not sure why anyone’s top choice would be Malzahn…I guess he’s the most gettable.

Joey Freshwater would be a great for us. Puts a lot of pressure on Clemson and Florida and helps us with Memphis recruiting.
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Kiffin in Tallahassee would be a steal for FSU. His recruiting in that state would blow up. He would only have to contend with Clemson in the ACC. If I am the AD I am making that call asap and offering whatever it take to get him there.
 
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itsme said:
Kiffin in Tallahassee would be a steal for FSU. His recruiting in that state would blow up. He would only have to contend with Clemson in the ACC. If I am the AD I am making that call asap and offering whatever it take to get him there.
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They cannot afford him.
 
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Brillovol said:
11 of 17 completions within 10 yards, yet they netted 134 yards and 2 TD's. FYI, that's 12 yards per completion. That's called scheme, bro. Oh, and he threw it "deep" 7 times and netted either a first down or TD 3 of those. That's a 42% success rate. Not to mention our leading rusher and extends plays with his legs.

He moves the sticks and gives us at least a chance. I'll take that over Uncle Rico.
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You miscounted. 16 of 18 completions within 10 yards. Yes, our guys really did well running screens against TTU. That isn’t getting it done against Fl
 
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Bassmaster_Vol said:
I think that’s an over simplification. People wanted to see HB because Hooker can’t pass.

We sorta got to see him on Saturday. He didn’t look very good. He was also playing behind Parker ball and all freshman OL and throwing to receivers ive never heard of.

He still moves too slow in the pocket and if he’s ever going to be a player he needs to get that fixed
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He is who two coaching staffs tried to tell us he is. A lot of ppl didn’t believe them
 
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As always, the florida corners hang all over the receivers down field, so hopefully we get them on a few PIs early and it softens their coverage up
 
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Bassmaster_Vol said:
Buddy, I could hit 68% of my passes if 90% of them are thrown behind the LOS
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I'll take that bet and say you couldn't. The offense moves with Hooker. The offense goes long and hits on a very low rate when Milton is in and it's always on an early down. Milton continues to set us back in the early downs. 3 & outs are the worst thing that can happen to a defense without much depth. I'll take those 5 yard dink and dunk gains all day vs. 3rd and 8-10.
 
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