Harrison Bailey (merged)

#101
#101
GetYouSomeofThat said:
Yall act like he isnt given an opportunity everyday at practice. Just because you arent allowed in the facility to watch practice doesnt mean he hasnt had a fair chance to win the job.


I swear i think some of you believe the team oy gets together for the games.
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JG earned it in practice too.
 
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ABINGDON VOL FAN said:
True , but playing against a shell of a defense. It’s all about handling the defensive pressure up front and having the same touch. Big difference.
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Go watch some of his high school passes deep down the field and hitting Arik Gilbert down field in the seam, a thing of beauty. It can't be taught, you either have it or you son't.
 
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Remy said:
Go watch some of his high school passes deep down the field and hitting Arik Gilbert down field in the seam, a thing of beauty. It can't be taught, you either have it or you son't.
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This hate for Bailey is unwarranted by some of you posters....All we are asking for is give the kid a chance and see how he does with this offense.
 
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DaddyChad said:
Agreed. And that’s not saying he couldn’t develop into a decent QB but this crap is ridiculous throwing up numbers vs teams in garbage time. I’d love for him to be the guy but fact is he’s never wowed two staffs enough to put him ahead of terrible options at qb.
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So with this line of thinking.... Hear me out, wtf have the other two done specifically ? Please cause we have now seen both in games. Milton is not a good qb, HH isn't a great deal better. So if all they can do is run, how does that turn out against, UG, Uga, Bama etc ? Exactly nothing. You are using Bailey saying he isn't good because he played with an overall sh1tty team in his first year of college ball. With little to no support or coaching from the previous coaching staff. He was still the best qb on roster even through all of that. And no im sure he didnt wow you because the oline was swiss cheese and the team had mailed it in. I don't know what Bailey can do right now, none of you do. But the fact the other two are allowed to lose winnable games, and make so many mistakes, why doesnt the next guy deserve a chance to play a few snaps and see what happens ? Our Coach said, they have faith in all of them and that it was a close competition. So is he a liar ? This Tech game is a good opportunity to get guys on the field and there is 0 excuse to not do so.
 
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BigALWiLson said:
So with this line of thinking.... Hear me out, wtf have the other two done specifically ? Please cause we have now seen both in games. Milton is not a good qb, HH isn't a great deal better. So if all they can do is run, how does that turn out against, UG, Uga, Bama etc ? Exactly nothing. You are using Bailey saying he isn't good because he played with an overall sh1tty team in his first year of college ball. With little to no support or coaching from the previous coaching staff. He was still the best qb on roster even through all of that. And no im sure he didnt wow you because the oline was swiss cheese and the team had mailed it in. I don't know what Bailey can do right now, none of you do. But the fact the other two are allowed to lose winnable games, and make so many mistakes, why doesnt the next guy deserve a chance to play a few snaps and see what happens ? Our Coach said, they have faith in all of them and that it was a close competition. So is he a liar ? This Tech game is a good opportunity to get guys on the field and there is 0 excuse to not do so.
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I don’t think I would disagree with anything you said. Simply saying we don’t have reason to believe he is a great deal better than what we’ve seen out of Milton and Hooker. Definitely would get him some snaps and see what happens. If he doesn’t play this weekend I think it will speak as to how the staff feels about him.
 
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GetYouSomeofThat said:
Yall act like he isnt given an opportunity everyday at practice. Just because you arent allowed in the facility to watch practice doesnt mean he hasnt had a fair chance to win the job.


I swear i think some of you believe the team oy gets together for the games.
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Bailey has been bracketed with Hooker and running with the twos. Hooker was better than Milton - so there is a chance Bailey is also better than Milton. I guess by your logic Milton should always start over Hooker because he looks better in practice running the drills, etc.
 
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whodeycin85 said:
Love the way VN nation is complaining about a duo of QBs with a combined 59.6 comp rating 382 yards passing 158 yard rushing and 5 tds......and pining for a QB that helped lead the team last year to 86 points in 6 games..
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Did you include 5 turnovers to ? And the most important stat of losing to a team last weekend we should have eliminated in the first qtr ? Yeah that isn't hood qb play. The sad this is qb1 milton has about a 50% completion percentage. Turns the ball over and is constantly playing the look at me game. Go look at the first series when we scored off the punt block and watch Milton closely flexing on a lb from Pitt. Then the Superman, and Cam pose. Stop the bs and do your job. He hasnt to this point
 
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GameTime said:
This hate for Bailey is unwarranted by some of you posters....All we are asking for is give the kid a chance and see how he does with this offense.
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He has to earn his chance to start or wait for an injury, covid or garbage time.

I don't think for one minute Bailey is balling out in practice, throwing bombs hitting the guys, getting the ball out quick to the guy over middle, low turn overs, getting the team line and ready looking like a stud and CJH says nope I'm putting Milton in there. A coach that played the position, a coach that was a Heisman runner up, a coach that has coached less than mobile QB's and had success

Right now the argument should be why is CJH starting Milton over Hooker. I hope Hooker starts Saturday, we blow Tech out and Bailey get's the 4th quarter to get some game reps
 
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DaddyChad said:
I don’t think I would disagree with anything you said. Simply saying we don’t have reason to believe he is a great deal better than what we’ve seen out of Milton and Hooker. Definitely would get him some snaps and see what happens. If he doesn’t play this weekend I think it will speak as to how the staff feels about him.
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If he doesn't play I would say he is transferring. This is exactly the type of a game you see the backups. If Milton can't play, there is no logic behind HH playing 4 qtrs against a team like this.
 
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DaddyChad said:
I don’t think I would disagree with anything you said. Simply saying we don’t have reason to believe he is a great deal better than what we’ve seen out of Milton and Hooker. Definitely would get him some snaps and see what happens. If he doesn’t play this weekend I think it will speak as to how the staff feels about him.
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I would also agree we don't know what he can do, but we do know what the others have brought to the table. They aren't exactly impressive
 
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TheVolsFrog said:
He has to earn his chance to start or wait for an injury, covid or garbage time.

I don't think for one minute Bailey is balling out in practice, throwing bombs hitting the guys, getting the ball out quick to the guy over middle, low turn overs, getting the team line and ready looking like a stud and CJH says nope I'm putting Milton in there. A coach that played the position, a coach that was a Heisman runner up, a coach that has coached less than mobile QB's and had success

Right now the argument should be why is CJH starting Milton over Hooker. I hope Hooker starts Saturday, we blow Tech out and Bailey get's the 4th quarter to get some game reps
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This is what I asked for this week. Hooker is a better option than Milton. That said he needs to clean up the turnovers. We need a passing game that Milton doesn't give us. If Milton can't play Bailey should get time late in the game to see what he can do. No way should HH be playing into the middle of the 4th against a team that lost 26-0 to Furman
 
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BigALWiLson said:
This is what I asked for this week. Hooker is a better option than Milton. That said he needs to clean up the turnovers. We need a passing game that Milton doesn't give us. If Milton can't play Bailey should get time late in the game to see what he can do. No way should HH be playing into the middle of the 4th against a team that lost 26-0 to Furman
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Yeah if we go in and take care of business and HH started. He needs to be sat and getting ready for FL. Give HB some reps in the game
 
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BigALWiLson said:
If he doesn't play I would say he is transferring. This is exactly the type of a game you see the backups. If Milton can't play, there is no logic behind HH playing 4 qtrs against a team like this.
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I don't disagree with this sentiment per se, and think if Milton can't go that we will see HB late. But I would not be surprised to see either Milton or Hooker (whoever starts) go midway into the 4th like Milton did against BGSU solely because of the need to get more live game reps.
 
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BigALWiLson said:
Did you include 5 turnovers to ? And the most important stat of losing to a team last weekend we should have eliminated in the first qtr ? Yeah that isn't hood qb play. The sad this is qb1 milton has about a 50% completion percentage. Turns the ball over and is constantly playing the look at me game. Go look at the first series when we scored off the punt block and watch Milton closely flexing on a lb from Pitt. Then the Superman, and Cam pose. Stop the bs and do your job. He hasnt to this point
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I agree turnovers are huge....I'm well aware of the impact of 50%...CJH has said numerous time for the offense to work you throw down field...short completions helped lead to poor rushing performance by our running backs...shots downfield whether completed or not make the defense think pass before reacting to run giving your runner a split second more...small wasnt able to get the space and doesn't run tough enough to create his own.....so yes Milton needs to connect on those passes..but anyone with common sense and football knowledge understands that comp% drop nearly 40% on any pass over 20 yards....throw in the fact that 15% of Miltons passes have been drops, i wonder if he doesn't trust his recievers....if you noticed after Hyatt dropped the td pass milton stopped throwing and started trying to aim his passes. Milton needs to trust his tools....and get outta his head...from BG to Pitt he made adjustments getting more air under his passes...so he can make adjustments
 
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You can't compare his QB rating and %s to other QBs with a small sample size. Especially when they've probably played all season and Bailey had not.
 
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whodeycin85 said:
I agree turnovers are huge....I'm well aware of the impact of 50%...CJH has said numerous time for the offense to work you throw down field...short completions helped lead to poor rushing performance by our running backs...shots downfield whether completed or not make the defense think pass before reacting to run giving your runner a split second more...small wasnt able to get the space and doesn't run tough enough to create his own.....so yes Milton needs to connect on those passes..but anyone with common sense and football knowledge understands that comp% drop nearly 40% on any pass over 20 yards....throw in the fact that 15% of Miltons passes have been drops, i wonder if he doesn't trust his recievers....if you noticed after Hyatt dropped the td pass milton stopped throwing and started trying to aim his passes. Milton needs to trust his tools....and get outta his head...from BG to Pitt he made adjustments getting more air under his passes...so he can make adjustments
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If he doesn't trust them then he doesn't need to be out there. Maybe they don't trust him to throw a catachable ball either. They obviously didn't have issues catching the ball for Hooker. Hyatt is a young guy and he will get it right. Meachem had drop issues to at one point. Hyatt has to make plays when able to do so. As well as the rest. Heupel has to play guys, practice is practice. You develope habits in practice and we have seen overthrows and drops so far.
 
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vegasvolfan said:
Most people agree Bailey should be the guy. It makes absolutely zero sense and leaves one thinking WHY? Give me one performance stat that indicates Milton over any of these guys? It’s simply not there.

It is as if the money is involved once again. That leaves me thinking perhaps the boosters have invested money in Milton, because they feel he has more star power. Once again, the boosters are messing it all up, because they don’t know football.
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You dont really believe this do you?


No is the only normal answer
 
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#119
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Fullfillmer said:
Bailey has been bracketed with Hooker and running with the twos. Hooker was better than Milton - so there is a chance Bailey is also better than Milton. I guess by your logic Milton should always start over Hooker because he looks better in practice running the drills, etc.
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Milton should start over Hooker at this point. Although i wont be in here whining if Hooker starts.

Yalls love affair with HB probably embarasses him. It really should stop.
 
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#121
DustyRockSolid said:
You're correct about the idiot part.
Just wrong about which fans. ;)
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Right

One group who has never been allowed in practice nor played the game believes their take on the situation is better than the team's take, the coaches take and the take of those who've had access to practice..

The other group of fans feel confident at this point the coaching staff should be trusted.

You choose your idiots from those two groups. The choice you make will speak volumes.
 
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GetYouSomeofThat said:
Right

One group who has never been allowed in practice nor played the game believes their take on the situation is better than the team's take, the coaches take and the take of those who've had access to practice..

The other group of fans feel confident at this point the coaching staff should be trusted.

You choose your idiots from those two groups. The choice you make will speak volumes.
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#123
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GetYouSomeofThat said:
Milton should start over Hooker at this point. Although i wont be in here whining if Hooker starts.

Yalls love affair with HB probably embarasses him. It really should stop.
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What's embarrassing is you thinking that Milton should still be starting after the two debacles we just witnessed.

I'm good with Hooker starting and then bringing HB in for some meaningful snaps. Milton shouldn't see the field in this game honestly.
 
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GetYouSomeofThat said:
Milton should start over Hooker at this point. Although i wont be in here whining if Hooker starts.

Yalls love affair with HB probably embarasses him. It really should stop.
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I agree Bailey is probably not happy if people are promoting him or suggesting he should be playing -
Since I have said all along that I would start Hooker Saturday - you must be directing the Yalls comment to someone other than me. I just threw out some numbers about Bailey and basically said - even though this guy isn't starting - it looks to me like he can certainly play.
People are generally all in - or all out on Bailey and the reality lies somewhere in the middle. He isn't going to start in the NFL next season, but he could be starting this season at a lot of schools, including some here in this conference.

I didn't like how JG started game after game after crapping the bed the last 4 years, with the narrative being - you're not the coach, you don't see practices, he is really a tough hard-nosed kid, the offensive line, the guys behind him have to be even worse.
Just trying to give HB a little credit - he is not nearly as bad as some on here imply. Nor is he nearly as good as others on here hope and dream. His is a college athlete doing his best to improve every week, pass his classes and have fun in the process.

Milton will have to get dialed in. I don't see this staff as stubborn as the last couple about locking in on their guy. But that's sort of what I was hoping with Butch and Pruitt and we know how that turned out.
 
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GetYouSomeofThat said:
Right

One group who has never been allowed in practice nor played the game believes their take on the situation is better than the team's take, the coaches take and the take of those who've had access to practice..

The other group of fans feel confident at this point the coaching staff should be trusted.

You choose your idiots from those two groups. The choice you make will speak volumes.
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So the last three years of Pruitt starting JG and everyone using the excuse "the coaches see them everyday and I trust them more" hasn't affected you at all? We all have eyes and have seen all three QBs play, albeit, HB hasn't played yet in this system, but from what I have seen, HB throws a better ball than the other two and Hooker runs better than the other two. So start Hooker Sat, earned it from his performance last Sat, and then let HB play some meaningful snaps in the 2nd Quarter, if not the whole quarter, and see who plays better.
 
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