Recruiting Forum Football Talk IV

[gohogs14]

Sarkisian will go after him.

Probably depends on how Card does this year

 

[Ulysees E. McGill]

You can’t be serious right now

He is being smartasstic...it is obvious if you know his style.

 

[Sugaray13]

Already packed it into the fanny pack, chief.

Aren't fanny packs kinda small?

 

[Volitaire]

Ya I agree, the drops on long passes last night were because Milton lacks touch. But he does lack touch, and in other short pass situations, it's going to get us in trouble if he doesn't fix it.

The coaches absolutely disagree with your prejudice opinion, but you are more than welcome to think wrongly if you like

 

[Glitch]

It's what people resort to when I'm right. So You'd be be Scrooge McDuck, diving into your pile of nickels.

 

[NMVol]

He is being smartasstic...it is obvious if you know his style.

Thanks. Saved me the effort of stating the obvious. Hooker had a "bad" fumble too.

 

[Catbone]

Pitt is still shaping up to be the real barometer this year. If Milton plays the same way I'm benching him for Hooker.

 

[drvenner]

What if that pass to the flat was picked off and returned for a TD, which it would have been in a SEC game? What if Tillman doesn’t go over the DB to make a spectacular catch and that ball is intercepted like it should have been? If those outcomes changed, we would be screaming for a new QB today.

There are what ifs every single game, both good and bad. Milton did not play well. He needs to improve. And, many people are screaming for a new QB already, LOL.

 

[jave36]

The coaches absolutely disagree with your prejudice opinion, but you are more than welcome to think wrongly if you like

LOL typo. I meant "weren't"

 

[Ulysees E. McGill]

So you think Bailey is secretly doing the best in practice but Heupel is sabotaging himself and playing Milton out of misguided stubbornness?

Sure, that makes sense.


If Milton is another JG, a practice warrior that fades when the lights come on, then I'm sure Heupel will see it and make a change. But in no way do I believe Heup is favoring Milton if someone else is actually doing better in practice. I think Heupel is more intelligent than Pruitt, especially when it comes to QBs.

I hope all of our QBs succeed and will ride with whichever one this staff decides to run out on that field, but I think some already have a love affair with Bailey and seem to be hoping everyone in front of him fails so he'll have a chance to get out there and prove them right.

If the fans know more than the coaches, then we still don't have the right coaches.

I think he has always wanted Milton because he can laserbeam those deep outs to those super wide splits..Bailey has a good arm, but Milton's is spectacular.

That is why.

 

[Glitch]

Y'all want to jump over into the Pitt Pre-Game/Game thread that @nicksjuzunk put together?



Oh wait. It ain't there yet.

 

[Ulysees E. McGill]

So you're choosing to believe Tennessee still has the wrong coaches? Because if the staff is purposely not playing the best QB, or not recognizing who the best QB is, then we obviously still have the wrong coaches. Where does Uncle Dobrucky coach?

You are being deliberately obtuse.

 

[butchna]

One thing I think is concerning about Milton asides from the lack of touch and a clock in his head...I may be nitpicking here, but I don’t like the Superman poses and the cutting up on the sideline. I don’t envision the other two acting like that. A fourth year QB needs to act a little more professional imo. I’m not anti-celebration, but go pat the OL on the head...less look at me.

Cam Newton’s his favorite player.

 

[butchna]

Probably depends on how Card does this year

Still would.

 

[Kingston Vol]

You think that UCF (or any UCF team ever) had more talent than this UT team?

Not more talent necessarily, but better.

UCF doesn’t have more talent than us this year, but they’d beat us.

Pittsburgh doesn’t have more talent than us, but they’re favored next week.

Talent isn’t the whole story.

 

[Big Gucci Sosa]

Till fights tomorrow

 

[Ulysees E. McGill]

So Heupel made that mistake before and didn't learn from it? Is that what you're saying?

What I hate on MBs is when we think we know more than the coaches. Like I said, if that's actually the case, if we know more than the coaches, then we obviously don't have the right coaches.

As far as Milton goes, if he can't get it done in games, I trust that Heup will give someone else a chance until he finds something that works. I'm just tired of the narrative that Bailey didn't get a fair shake. If that's true, then again, we STILL have the wrong coaches. Considering Heup is probably guaranteed the next 4-5 years, I hope and pray that's not the case.

I think coaches are human f'n beings that make mistakes, the good ones just learn quickly and move on. Heupel has lusted for Miltons abilities for years and thinks he can "fix" him...he wouldn't be the first good coach waylaid by hubris. That being said, I don't think he will put up with that crappy play for long...

Whatever you think about Bailey, I know this for a fact...he was seeing, and hitting those wide open inside routes in the Spring...period...the same ones blind boy was not seeing all night last night except for the two he threw to Hyatt that were dropped.

 

[NMVol]

Stats are nice and all. But a football season doesn't necessarily unfold in a linear rational way. Consider '98 and the 4th quarter breaks and heroics against Syracuse and Arkansas.

Peyton Manning had to overcome an interception problem after year 1 in the NFL. Crompton was coached through his gopher burner phase. Players can improve with coaching and commitment.

Saw some one putting Tee Martin's game down because he wasn't a "great" QB. He managed a national championship run. What more do you need?

When people 1st saw Dobbs run many thought he was slow because of his long stride. We came to find out he was uncanny in shedding tackles.

I'd like to have certainty about the future. I am sure the coaching staff is making what they consider to be the best choice given the information they have. The season is young. Many breaks and plays before this team. I like the trajectory.

 

[Ulysees E. McGill]

I said 5-8 wins based on QB play and injuries. Was disappointed in Milton. Not so much how he didn’t look comfortable or connect on long passes because that takes time, and he didn’t have spring practice. It was more the simple throws over the middle. Guess I was hoping for that after JG. I think HH and HB could do that better, but you would have to give up the long balls. Glad CJH is not giving up on Milton after one game though. And I am sure the other two will continue to be developed and prepared in case he does not improve.

I think it is the deep outs that would have to be curtailed, and I understand why those are hard for Heupel to curtail.

 

[Big Gucci Sosa]

Josh Heupel has been out around Knoxville this morning with stops at Karns, Catholic, Powell, Fulton, AE and West before going to the Baylor vs Catholic and Powell vs Karns games this evening.

Rodney Garner will be with Heupel at those games to see Walter Nolen, Ayden

Rodney Elarbee is in the state of Florida seeing Brian Grant.

Jerry Mack is in Memphis to see the Germantown vs Whitehaven game to see Kody Jones and others.

Defensive Coordinator Tim Banks is in Michigan to see defensive back Jeremiah Caldwell and Vol commitment Masai Reddick.

Just south in Indiana, you will find Joey Halzle checking in on Tayven Jackson.

Kodi Burns is over in Arkansas seeing Chas Nimrod.

Offensive Coordinator Alex Golesh is in the midstate checking in with several targets such as the Marcel Reed, Nate and Edwin Spillman, and Caleb Beasley.

Mike Ekeler is in North Carolina seeing James Pearce and some other 2023’s in Charlotte.

Brian Jean Mary is in middle Tennessee seeing Ayden Bussell and then down to Murfreesboro to see the Herrings and more.

Willie Martinez is in Alabama seeing a handful of defensive backs from that state.

VQ

 

[BubbaWms]

1down14 to go….

Milton…
timid, 1 to many long balls over thrown, standing around next wkend he’ll get coldcocked,
Impressed with Coach Halzle, he’ll work the kinks out of Milton this week
C+

Defense…
2nd qtr confusion, they moved the ball forward too easily
B+

Offense overall pretty good
B+

Fan turnout and spirit A++++

Pitt will not be a practice team, big test for the Big Orange

 

[headhunter15]

Pitt is still shaping up to be the real barometer this year. If Milton plays the same way I'm benching him for Hooker.

If Hooker or Bailey can hit the deep ball, play them. Heupel’s offense is predicated on being able to hit the bomb.

 

[peaygolf]

Huge win for the Govs!

 

[Ulysees E. McGill]

I don’t think anyone is saying Pittsburgh is great, but they’re the ‘85 Bears compared to that Bowling Green team. They have actually D1 linemen on both sides of the ball.

This right here also causes a lot of consternation for me:
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There is no doubt that UCF team in 2019 was better than this current UT team. Pitt knows the recipe for this offense and knows how to beat it.

UCF scored 34 in that game..if that was Pitts recipe, it was a bad one. They won because UCFs defense gave up 35...plus wasn't that game early in the year when the QB situation was still unsettled before Gabriel came on?

 

[Volitaire]

I think coaches are human f'n beings that make mistakes, tbe good ones just learn quickly and move in. Heupel has lusted for Miltons abilities for years and thinks he can "fix" him...ge wouldn't be the first good coach waylaid by hubris. That being said, I don't think he will put up with that crappy play for long...

Whatever you think about Bailey, I know this fir a fact...he was seeing, and hitting those wide open inside routes in tbe Spring...period...the same ones blind boy was not seeing all night last night except for tbe two he threw to Hyatt that were dropped.

Lol at using the spring game for proof of being better…. Some of our fans are legitimately crazy