Recruiting Forum Football Talk IV

[Glitch]

Hype's moobs though.

 

[Catbone]

Our fans love for Harrison Bailey is weird, the guy torched a bunch of walk ons in the spring game

He played well last year against much better competition than BG

 

[BucVol98]

Again, he never slid once, so he clearly wasn't timid. I thought he was nowhere near timid enough. He was running into people way too much. He's an athlete, of course he's going to try to juke when he thinks he can. That's probably worked for most of his life. Unless it's third down or goal line, he needs to be sliding. He took way, way too much contact.

You don't have to slide to be timid or avoid contact, if you seriously think he was running hard and trying to fight through tackles anywhere other than those 2 short runs near the goal line then you need to go back and watch the game again

 

[jave36]

Poster on VQ - Stats Minus drops and hailmary.

Against one of the worst teams in football. It wasn't that bad, but it wasn't very good either. If the offense was where we need it to be to win 7+, we'd have put up 50+ on a team like that.

I don't mind the low yardage. BG was playing not to get beat deep, so we ran it, no problem with that. The standing around not moving in the pocket, the drops, the way, way overthrown deep balls, the lack of touch, the locking in on WR, those are things that bother me.

 

[Glitch]

This is stupid, Weezer. I hate how we do this on message boards. Good grief.

No, but I do believe that it is possible for a coach to fall in love with a guy who can throw it 80 yards effortlessly and think that he can use those tools to create big explosive plays, verses playing the guy who doesn't have those tools, but who is effective in the offense. Wow, crazy, I know. It's almost like Heup has done that before. Oh yeah, when he started Wimbush in 2019 at UCF before making the switch to Dillion Gabriel and the rest is history.

If we had a nickel for every time someone typed those words on this site....

 

[Volitaire]

Agreed. None of those drops were uncatchable because of the speed. That said, Milton has got to learn some touch. JG did the same thing, everything doesn't need to be a bullet, especially when we start throwing to the RB more often.

I don’t think we should normalize “touch” passes more than 15 yards away that’s just dumb…unless you are throwing over a defender those drops were on the wr 100%

 

[Volitaire]

He played well last year against much better competition than BG

Provide his stats lol

 

[05_never_again]

Our fans love for Harrison Bailey is weird, the guy torched a bunch of walk ons in the spring game

I don't think it has anything to do with his play last year...the dude was anointed as the savior of the program from the moment he verbally committed. He was supposed to be "Pruitt's QB" because JG was damaged goods.

...and Maurer's appeal was purely because of that one long TD pass against Georgia.

 

[Pacer92]

One thing I think is concerning about Milton asides from the lack of touch and a clock in his head...I may be nitpicking here, but I don’t like the Superman poses and the cutting up on the sideline. I don’t envision the other two acting like that. A fourth year QB needs to act a little more professional imo. I’m not anti-celebration, but go pat the OL on the head...less look at me.

 

[BucVol98]

My goodness, one game in and a lot of you guys are ready to throw Milton to the bench and trot the next guy out there. Some of you would like Milton to fail so bad so that HB can play but would swear that you are a true Vol fan

I'm not a proponent of benching Milton after game 1, but I am a proponent of playing whoever will win us games.

Do you have to be a true Vol Fan to like losing all because you won't bench someone in favor of another?

If Milton doesn't show improvement and we get behind in the Pitt game, then I'm all for pulling him to see what the guys behind him have got..... that doesn't make me a fake Vol Fan does it?

 

[Volfanatic_20]

One thing I think is concerning about Milton asides from the lack of touch and a clock in his head...I may be nitpicking here, but I don’t like the Superman poses and the cutting up on the sideline. I don’t envision the other two acting like that. A fourth year QB needs to act a little more professional imo. I’m not anti-celebration, but go pat the OL on the head...less look at me.

Game 1 and we are already at that stage of finding anything and everything to complain about.

This fanbase man. Get over it.

 

[MoCo_Vol]

I don’t think anyone is saying Pittsburgh is great, but they’re the ‘85 Bears compared to that Bowling Green team. They have actually D1 linemen on both sides of the ball.

This right here also causes a lot of consternation for me:
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There is no doubt that UCF team in 2019 was better than this current UT team. Pitt knows the recipe for this offense and knows how to beat it.

Not sure how much stock I put in a 2 year old game with a true freshmen QB who was making his third career start and playing on the road.

 

[VolNash17]

I hope we get something changed in the passing game… Narduzzi will undoubtedly unleash his exotic front 7 pass rush and lock up the run game until Milton can show he’s able to be alot more efficient down the field. Pittsburgh has had one of the highest pressure rush rates in the NCAA under Narduzzi. Just hope we can get it figured out before then. Might end up having to switch QBs in the middle of the game if the offense goes stale or starts turning it over due to pressure

 

[jave36]

You don't have to slide to be timid or avoid contact, if you seriously think he was running hard and trying to fight through tackles anywhere other than those 2 short runs near the goal line then you need to go back and watch the game again

He shouldn't be doing those things is my point. He shouldn't even be getting contacted. He's a QB. We don't need him to get injured trying to act like a RB. The fact that he wasn't sliding means he wasn't timid enough.

 

[Ulysees E. McGill]

I watched the opening two drives again. Those were really impressive.

And Milton showed burst on his runs on those two drives - some designed QB runs and he flashed some speed.

I don't think he gets to full speed very often - he is more methodical. Doesn't want to get hurt maybe?

But those drives were very good.

According to Jave he was going all out..

 

[jave36]

I don’t think we should normalize “touch” passes more than 15 yards away that’s just dumb…unless you are throwing over a defender those drops were on the wr 100%

Ya I agree, the drops on long passes last night weren't because Milton lacks touch. But he does lack touch, and in other short pass situations, it's going to get us in trouble if he doesn't fix it.

 

[drvenner]

Boise is a terrible football team. UCF might be in trouble

We can hope.

 

[Pacer92]

Game 1 and we are already at that stage of finding anything and everything to complain about.

This fanbase man. Get over it.

5 yard TD runs aren’t equivalent to look at me Superman poses...maybe in Jr. Pro.

 

[Weezer]

If we had a nickel for every time someone typed those words on this site....

It's what people resort to when I'm right. So You'd be be Scrooge McDuck, diving into your pile of nickels.

 

[Ulysees E. McGill]

I hate to break it to you but it's going to be a long year if you think that pass is going to work.

This is dumb..that pass is a go to play in todays game.

 

[jordan4vols]

Everyone needs to understand. THEY WANT TO REDSHIRT BAILEY. They want him to have the development year he did not get last year. His time at UT is not over simply because Milton is playing. Bailey looked engaged to me last night. Heupel told Mauer where he stood and he left. Maybe just maybe he also told Bailey and he’s fine with it.

 

[SpringBokVol]

I am pretty disappointed in how out of shape Heupel is.

He should do better.

 

[BigSteve09]

No it is not

2:23:03 in case it doesn't automatically start there.

Defender got his head turned around in time, was in position, slipped, and Tillman reached over the smaller defender to make a great catch.

You guys keep saying that it was a great play. It was a great catch. That pass is not a great pass, I'm sorry. It's going to get picked, at the very least defended, against better competition. That's assuming that Milton has 3 seconds in the pocket to even set that play up, also assuming that him fleeing a clean pocket is available, also assuming that the WR has time to get down there.

Are we just going to pretend like we don't play in the SEC against bigger, stronger, faster, more experienced defensive backs?

 

[Ulysees E. McGill]

Why not? Guy threw for a whopping 8.9 YPA last year - best of the 3. Also had the 2nd highest of the 3 PFF passer grade (Milton just barely ahead, HB 3rd by quite a bit fwiw) and a 153 qbr. Easily the best runner, which would be nice too. Milton's running is pretty overrated, but fine.

I think either HH or HB could be serviceable passers. And Milton is too, but I can see why the hesitation from some.

In context..Baileys stats from last year are absolutely useless for a ton of factual reasons, and you dang well know it.

 

[Ulysees E. McGill]

Milton is also afraid of contact, which is surprising since he weighs 250 pounds

Jave says he was looking for contact..lol..