Coronavirus (No politics)

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NO SIR EEE said:
First, I wouldn’t be blatantly walking around a store, getting in people’s spaces for zero reason. Second, you just plainly stated that you believe mandates are okay. They’re not, have a nice evening.
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I stated no opinion on masking mandates, only acknowledged they are in place in several public locations and that there are plenty of folks who believe what the authorities are telling them concerning improving safety by mask wearing. Certainly you or anyone is entitled to agree or disagree with the validity of the mandates. But why are the folks that don’t share your opinions and are following what they are told to do being forced to be made to feel uncomfortable and unsafe when someone else says bs and I ain’t doing it? It’s got nothing to do with the mask - it’s about common curtesy in a public place which you and plenty of others appear to not abide by. Twist it anyway you want in your mind, but it’s still giving the finger to all those old or paranoid folks out there. But hey, if you’re comfortable with that then whatever.
 
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GoBigOrange2008 said:
Is there a specific test for Delta?
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No, its past safe to assume if you catch Covid now it IS Delta.

GetYouSomeofThat said:
Im certain your feelings about others not being vaccinated stem solely from your deep empathy for medical professionals.

If the medical professionals are vaccinated why do you worry so about them?

If the vaccination doesn't work, why do you want others to take it?


Things that make ya go hmmm.


PS i am vaccinated although not entirely due to my desire to take it. I paid $6k to go on a cruise and it was required or else i had to pay more and do.less. Otherwise i would have preferred natual immunity as it is significantly better than synthetically produced immunity.

And yes...my over 80 year old uncle died from it. A guy i coached football with died from it. Close family members were hospitalized with it.
Everyone i know who had complications fron Covid had health issues or were older. If you really wanna be safe from the virus get healthy. If you're 60plus then you probably wanna think about getting vaccinated.
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Just to be clear, you've known people that have not only died but suffered from catching the virus and you simply got one series of a 2 series vaccine because you wanted to ride on a boat?!

LWSVOL said:
I have not heard the reason but my guess would be there are players not wanting to get the shot. Just a guess
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If I was the coach: If you don't get vaccinated you don't play and you don't work out with everyone else.

GAVol said:
That’s the problem though. Between the non-compliers, the maskers who just aren’t very conscientious and human nature, I’m not sure you can ever hope to get the compliance necessary for making it effective. It’s kind of like those 3’ plexiglass barriers that people talk behind as if air isn’t circulating around them from 18 inches to the left and right.
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The true crime started when mask mandates were lifted simply because we had working vaccines and thought we were ok. It should have never been lifted.

CR-vol said:
Masks are silly. I drive a truck and cross multiple state lines every day and hardly anyone in the business takes masks mandates serious. I'm sure I have way more exposure to covid than lots of people on here that work normal jobs do. There's lots of gritty, nasty door handles that have to be opened wherever I go but I never caught covid and I've only been sick once in the past 25 years. Taking normal common sense precautions of washing your hands regularly and not touching your face works just as well for covid as it does the flu and every other virus out there. Masks are foolish. They're filthy and a lot of you people who wear them don't seem to have a problem with trashing up everywhere just discarding them on the ground or wherever.
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Covid is a respiratory virus. You inhale the virus you very very rarely get it through touch. The last data estimated something like a 1 in 10,000 chance of catching Covid by touch. Masks are more helpful against transmission than hand washing/sanitizing will ever be.
 
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I remain unconvinced by any junk science regarding the effectiveness of masks. They're in the same category as those stupid plexiglass panels in the damn way everywhere you go to pay for something. Worthless.
 
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Bassmaster_Vol said:
The vast, vast majority of children who are hospitalized and/or who have died from covid were severely impacted by other health issues. I've seen some statistics, but don't remember what they were. But they have heart defects, or they have cancer, or some other terrible disease. The stories of little Johnny perfectly healthy running on the playground one day and then getting covid and dying are nonexistent.
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Be that as it may, isn't it fair to say that COVID was still one of the differentiating factors between life and death for a lot of those children? Regardless of whether they had pre-existing medical conditions or not, COVID was still a factor in their deaths and shouldn't be discounted or treated any less serious.

This reminds me of those early on in the pandemic who were flippantly saying "well it only seriously affects the elderly". And my response to those people was, uh yeah and? Do their lives not count for something as well? Should we still not take every precaution necessary to protect them?

The problem is too many are looking at this pandemic from a completely selfish and self-centered viewpoint. You don't wear a mask for YOUR benefit. You wear it in consideration for others. You don't practice social distancing just for YOUR benefit, you do it also for the benefit of others. You don't get vaccinated just for YOUR benefit. You do it to help slow the perpetuation and mutation of the virus, which benefits everyone. IMO there's a pandemic of self-centeredness thats contributing to the exacerbation of the medical one. But go right on playing politics because that's more important. Go 'Murica!!
 
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mad4vols said:
A 3-year-old Tulsa girl is in the hospital battling COVID and pneumonia, and her mother, an emergency room nurse, is sharing her story with hopes it moves people to get vaccinated.

3-year-old Tulsa girl battles COVID in hospital, mom pleads for people to get vaccinated

This little girl is why we get vaccinated & wear masks because there's no vaccine for young children! PROTECT THE CHILDREN! WEAR A MASK & GET VACCINATED!
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But vaccinated people still get the virus and spread it. So how does getting the vaccine help this girl?
 
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maybe she'd have the defenses so it doesn't get bad enough to send her to the hospital? or maybe she has significant co-morbidities not mentioned in the story, which would make her susceptible to a bad outcome either way? if you're gonna gamble, which of those outcomes do you want to put your chips on? I'm not asking that to be a smart ass although the answer seems obvious to me.
 
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Brave Volunteer said:
Be that as it may, isn't it fair to say that COVID was still one of the differentiating factors between life and death for a lot of those children? Regardless of whether they had pre-existing medical conditions or not, COVID was still a factor in their deaths and shouldn't be discounted or treated any less serious.

This reminds me of those early on in the pandemic who were flippantly saying "well it only seriously affects the elderly". And my response to those people was, uh yeah and? Do their lives not count for something as well? Should we still not take every precaution necessary to protect them?

The problem is too many are looking at this pandemic from a completely selfish and self-centered viewpoint. You don't wear a mask for YOUR benefit. You wear it in consideration for others. You don't practice social distancing just for YOUR benefit, you do it also for the benefit of others. You don't get vaccinated just for YOUR benefit. You do it to help slow the perpetuation and mutation of the virus, which benefits everyone. IMO there's a pandemic of self-centeredness thats contributing to the exacerbation of the medical one. But go right on playing politics because that's more important. Go 'Murica!!
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More children died from the flu in the 2018-19 flu season than have died in a year and a half from this virus. Its panic peddling to hype up this virus

if the vaccine works and everyone can get it, it doesn’t matter if I do.

masks don’t work. Social distancing didnt help either.

your arguments are silly. Quit listening to Fauci and msm and you’ll be better off
 
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This is really sad that even after they are being hospitalized that some people still believe misinformation instead of thd doctors saving their lives. This is why misinformation is so dangerous.

 
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Coug said:
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Covid is a respiratory virus. You inhale the virus you very very rarely get it through touch. The last data estimated something like a 1 in 10,000 chance of catching Covid by touch. Masks are more helpful against transmission than hand washing/sanitizing will ever be.
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Even though I think there’s a little bit of Post Hoc fallacy when it comes to masks, I try to be careful about talking about any doubts I have because inevitably it feels like anything that’s slightly against the grain gets latched onto by the deniers trying to convince everybody this is all no big deal.
 
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GAVol said:
Even though I think there’s a little bit of Post Hoc fallacy when it comes to masks, I try to be careful about talking about any doubts I have because inevitably it feels like anything that’s slightly against the grain gets latched onto by the deniers trying to convince everybody this is all no big deal.
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unless you're wearing a properly fitted N95 mask, it's a sneeze guard. Basically, if you're face doesn't have one of those red rings around your mouth and nose from where the mask's edges inhibited the blood supply all you're doing is wearing a handkerchief. I'll wear one in places where most others are wearing one just as a courtesy. that's how I see it after having talked to various medical professionals about masks.
 
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NO SIR EEE said:
Keep believing what you’re seeing. Keep listening to the television. That’s exactly what they want.
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I only watch sports on television.. So hope I'm providing them good ratings.

I don't believe anything but what happens in my domain. Like we had dinner with a lady who tested positive 2 days later. She has been vaccinated as have majority in our retirement community. This was at a potluck dinner with around 75 people attending. We, like many, got tested which was negative. But we had to react.

I listen to this community and family members. That is the reality I believe in.
 
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