MLB cancels ASG in Atlanta

[hog88]

Literally happened in Rome.

Voting rights expanded, interest groups voted for their own benefit, bam boom bang suddenly it's a dictator in charge of an empire instead of a republic.

Few study and fewer understand history.

Ours is one of the oldest (if not oldest continuous) and longest lasting democratic forms of government ever and it's following in the same steps as many that have failed before.

 

[Tastylicks]

I am more of an opinion to stay and make it better instead of keeping the same crap around because it's the system we have. Aka the revolution.

are you on the FBI watch list?

 

[LouderVol]

are you on the FBI watch list?

Hopefully.

I think Jim is my minder today.

 

[luthervol]

Honestly, because that's about the least educated vote one can cast.

Oh, there's an election? Might as well

Yeah, but there might be a few cases of legitimate reasons. It will obviously be mainly first time voters and people who have recently moved.

 

[luthervol]

It's not the point. You're main point of contention with the GA legislation ended up being the state taking control away from the localities. Why wouldn't you feel the same with HB1?

My main contention was with the state giving themselves the ability to go in and throw out the local group and replace them with someone they get to select. And them taking away a person elected by statewide vote (SOS) and replacing them with a person of their choice.
You can see the difference and the problem.

 

[ButchPlz]

Few study and fewer understand history.

Ours is one of the oldest (if not oldest continuous) and longest lasting democratic forms of government ever and it's following in the same steps as many that have failed before.

It's deliberate. The founding fathers designed a government with certain protections that helped resist some of humanity's imperfections, but no system will ever stand long.

The problem is posters like the tasty troll in this thread that accelerate things through a deadly combination of idiocy and ignorance. And now idiots and ignorants are being manufactured wholesale by our school systems.

 

[luthervol]

Here we go down the rabbit hole.

It's just your basic premise is flawed.

 

[hog88]

My main contention was with the state giving themselves the ability to go in and throw out the local group and replace them with someone they get to select. And them taking away a person elected by statewide vote (SOS) and replacing them with a person of their choice.
You can see the difference and the problem.

How is that different than the feds telling states how they must run their elections? It's still centralizing power.

 

[hog88]

It's just your basic premise is flawed.

My premise that all humans are born with basic rights and freedoms and governments only restrict and take them away is not flawed.

 

[OHvol40]

Of course and we all should prefer that. If you can't make a single but of effort in 4yrs your vote is useless imo. It's a waste

You have a very restrictive view on voting.

 

[volinbham]

How is that different than the feds telling states how they must run their elections? It's still centralizing power.

And with the Feds doing it control leaves the state voters entirely, particularly for smaller states where the votes of their representatives are dwarfed by that of other states.

If the concern is loss of local control and voter input then HB1 is the mother of all concerns

 

[OHvol40]

All rights should be treated the same. Otherwise you are creating second class citizens and playing favorites, which the government shouldnt do.

So you want the same requirements for everything? It’s ironic that many of the same people that want less strict gun laws want more strict voting laws, and vice versa. Hypocrisy is alive and well in this country.

 

[OHvol40]

Criminal background. For the most part felons can't vote and nobody is checking criminal backgrounds when people register to vote.

If they’ve payed their criminal debt, why shouldn’t they be allowed to vote?

 

[hog88]

So you want the same requirements for everything? It’s ironic that many of the same people that want less strict gun laws want more strict voting laws, and vice versa. Hypocrisy is alive and well in this country.

Ignorant crazy people voting is just as or more dangerous than ignorant crazy people owning a firearm.

 

[Rickyvol77]

So you want the same requirements for everything? It’s ironic that many of the same people that want less strict gun laws want more strict voting laws, and vice versa. Hypocrisy is alive and well in this country.

I am all for background checks for voting, having to show ID, not allowing felons to vote, etc.

 

[OHvol40]

When has MLB ever moved an All Star game due to politics? This is new territory and it's not good

It’s also their business and hilarious that so many people that are “so done with professional sports” are again up in arms about professional sports.

 

[OHvol40]

If it makes you feel better..your freedom is provided by me.

I provide my own, but thanks!

 

[hog88]

If they’ve payed their criminal debt, why shouldn’t they be allowed to vote?

They should, just like they should be able to buy a gun but "should" isn't the point now is it?

 

[OHvol40]

Ignorant crazy people voting is just as or more dangerous than ignorant crazy people owning a firearm.

That’s figuratively debatable, and practically wrong lol.

 

[hog88]

That’s figuratively debatable, and practically wrong lol.

really? Care to guess how many murderous dictators were elected?

 

[OHvol40]

They should, just like they should be able to buy a gun but "should" isn't the point now is it?

How do you debate political issues without “should?”

 

[OHvol40]

really? Care to guess how many murderous dictators were elected?

Probably less than seized power... hence our democratic ideals.

 

[VolStrom]

If they’ve payed their criminal debt, why shouldn’t they be allowed to vote?

Does anyone honestly think they voted before they went to prison?

 

[OHvol40]

Does anyone honestly think they voted before they went to prison?

I don’t know, why don’t you take a poll?

Also, why does that matter?

 

[golfballs]

Why does Joe Biden keep saying the Georgia bill is a return to Jim Crow? Can someone w a brain defend that comparison?