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#11,903
#11,903
utvolpj said:
Where was he going that necessitated the trashing of someone's home and skipping out on the bill?
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Do you think they trashed the home just for fun? Or did they have to go in because a dangerous armed felon was in there threatening people
 
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#11,904
Rickyvol77 said:
Do you think they trashed the home just for fun? Or did they have to go in because a dangerous armed felon was in there threatening people
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Yes, I think they absolutely liked using their toys and breaking stuff

The guy was not ever leaving that house. I just fail to see any reason to break someone's house and skip out on the tab when they had nothing to do with the situation
 
#11,905
#11,905
utvolpj said:
Yes, I think they absolutely liked using their toys and breaking stuff

The guy was not ever leaving that house. I just fail to see any reason to break someone's house and skip out on the tab when they had nothing to do with the situation
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They couldn't just leave the guy in there armed and making threats, he already kidnapped a teenage girl, do you really think they could just say "aw shucks we will get em next time boys?"
You could argue they didnt need to smash the fence, but that's really the majority of the damage, breaking windows while throwing in gas or flashbangs isn't that big of a deal.
 
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#11,906
Rickyvol77 said:
They couldn't just leave the guy in there armed and making threats, he already kidnapped a teenage girl, do you really think they could just say "aw shucks we will get em next time boys?"
You could argue they didnt need to smash the fence, but that's really the majority of the damage, breaking windows while throwing in gas or flashbangs isn't that big of a deal.
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I never said to leave just that he had nowhere else to go

The lady said it cost $80k so it's a decent sized deal
 
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By teaming up with the Institute for Justice, the Slatics were able to fight back and win. In May 2017, a San Diego judge ordered the district attorney to return all of the family’s money with interest. Thank you for helping this family!
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#11,914
hog88 said:
Can you tell the story?
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Long story short..... Government came after my dad for something they said he did. Not only did they take the money out of all his accounts and freeze all his credit, but they also took all the money and froze the credit of the corporation that my parents ran. It took a month and an injunction by a judge to free up the company account and another year before the government gave back the company's money.The gov. lawyers had an officer at the first day of court and they took the money from his wallet and even his watch.They lost the case against my dad and while the judge did admonish the government lawyers for their tactics and even reasoning for bringing the case, it still cost my parents around 40K to fight the government.

Don't get me wrong.... It's nice that my dad was able to prove the government was in the wrong in the first place, but these people came after his wife and a corporation just because they could. The judge ruled that the last two were illegal, but it still took a year to get the money back. If my mom had not been running late on her bank deposit, the company would not have been able to keep operating until the injunction.

Now, some of our lefty friends will say "Wow, he must of been doing some really bad stuff.". He was working on a piece of land that he bought that backed up to some wetlands.
Not only did they find that he followed every stupid rule about runoff, but he actually went above what was necessary. They did however fine him for removing some tires from the wetlands. The tires were there before he bought the property so the government rules say that they could not be removed.
 
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#11,915
Sandman 423 said:
Long story short..... Government came after my dad for something they said he did. Not only did they take the money out of all his accounts and freeze all his credit, but they also took all the money and froze the credit of the corporation that my parents ran. It took a month and an injunction by a judge to free up the company account and another year before the government gave back the company's money.The gov. lawyers had an officer at the first day of court and they took the money from his wallet and even his watch.They lost the case against my dad and while the judge did admonish the government lawyers for their tactics and even reasoning for bringing the case, it still cost my parents around 40K to fight the government.

Don't get me wrong.... It's nice that my dad was able to prove the government was in the wrong in the first place, but these people came after his wife and a corporation just because they could. The judge ruled that the last two were illegal, but it still took a year to get the money back. If my mom had not been running late on her bank deposit, the company would not have been able to keep operating until the injunction.

Now, some of our lefty friends will say "Wow, he must of been doing some really bad stuff.". He was working on a piece of land that he bought that backed up to some wetlands.
Not only did they find that he followed every stupid rule about runoff, but he actually went above what was necessary. They did however fine him for removing some tires from the wetlands. The tires were there before he bought the property so the government rules say that they could not be removed.
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Absolutely terrible. The .gov should not have the power to seize assets or property prior to conviction. Period.
 
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Rickyvol77 said:
While i rarely agree with civil asset forfeiture, this isn't just some innocent dude with his weed. He and his company were laundering money as a front and several lawyers and businessmen were illegally shielding money there from the IRS
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Then why this?

By teaming up with the Institute for Justice, the Slatics were able to fight back and win. In May 2017, a San Diego judge ordered the district attorney to return all of the family’s money with interest. Thank you for helping this family!
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#11,918
Rickyvol77 said:
While i rarely agree with civil asset forfeiture, this isn't just some innocent dude with his weed. He and his company were laundering money as a front and several lawyers and businessmen were illegally shielding money there from the IRS
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And again... What about that 5th Amendment?

No person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous crime, unless on a presentment or indictment of a Grand Jury, except in cases arising in the land or naval forces, or in the Militia, when in actual service in time of War or public danger; nor shall any person be subject for the same offence to be twice put in jeopardy of life or limb; nor shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself, nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation.
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