To Protect and to Serve II

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#11,928
VolFaninFla said:
Kentucky Senate votes to criminalize 'taunting' police
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Under the legislation, anyone who “accosts, insults, taunts, or challenges a law enforcement officer with offensive or derisive words, or by gestures or other physical contact, that would have a direct tendency to provoke a violent response” would be guilty of a misdemeanor and face up to 90 days in jail and fines.

Garbage legislation. A R retired LEO sponsored this attack on free speech. Let's hope is fails in Ky's senate. Firstly, 'insults, taunts, or challenges'; are LEOs so emotionally immature they cannot handle being called ugly names? Secondly, 'a direct tendency to provoke a violent response', what??? Seems to me conservative-leaning folk have promoted abstinence as 100% effective; well, if the officers abstain from a violent response there will be no violent response.

Never in my life have I given a LEO any flak whatsoever. But I have been stopped by LEOs on power trips. Making those people a protected class in KY is bad juju.
 
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McDad said:
From link (bold by me):
Under the legislation, anyone who “accosts, insults, taunts, or challenges a law enforcement officer with offensive or derisive words, or by gestures or other physical contact, that would have a direct tendency to provoke a violent response” would be guilty of a misdemeanor and face up to 90 days in jail and fines.

Garbage legislation. A R retired LEO sponsored this attack on free speech. Let's hope is fails in Ky's senate. Firstly, 'insults, taunts, or challenges'; are LEOs so emotionally immature they cannot handle being called ugly names? Secondly, 'a direct tendency to provoke a violent response', what??? Seems to me conservative-leaning folk have promoted abstinence as 100% effective; well, if the officers abstain from a violent response there will be no violent response.

Never in my life have I given a LEO any flak whatsoever. But I have been stopped by LEOs on power trips. Making those people a protected class in KY is bad juju.
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Back the blue
 
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#11,932
McDad said:
Back the boo; as in boo this legislation and boo this politician.
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I say just boo politicians in general. Much more likely to be right

TN is trying similar things. I'm not understanding where they get the idea this is wanted
 
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utvolpj said:
I say just boo politicians in general. Much more likely to be right

TN is trying similar things. I'm not understanding where they get the idea this is wanted
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The first instinct should be booing.

I think we see this kind of garbage when "the other side" swings the political pendulum too far to one side. The politicians feel compelled to use their power to move the pendulum back in their favor. These legislative efforts are side effects to the summer of protests and riots we witnessed in 2020.
 
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McDad said:
From link (bold by me):
Under the legislation, anyone who “accosts, insults, taunts, or challenges a law enforcement officer with offensive or derisive words, or by gestures or other physical contact, that would have a direct tendency to provoke a violent response” would be guilty of a misdemeanor and face up to 90 days in jail and fines.

Garbage legislation. A R retired LEO sponsored this attack on free speech. Let's hope is fails in Ky's senate. Firstly, 'insults, taunts, or challenges'; are LEOs so emotionally immature they cannot handle being called ugly names? Secondly, 'a direct tendency to provoke a violent response', what??? Seems to me conservative-leaning folk have promoted abstinence as 100% effective; well, if the officers abstain from a violent response there will be no violent response.

Never in my life have I given a LEO any flak whatsoever. But I have been stopped by LEOs on power trips. Making those people a protected class in KY is bad juju.
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Left wing cancel culture: say the wrong thing and lose your livelihood
Right wing cancel culture: say the wrong thing and lose your freedom

We are getting crushed from the left and the right with all of these supposed thoughtcrimes and wrongspeak offenses.
 
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McDad said:
The first instinct should be booing.

I think we see this kind of garbage when "the other side" swings the political pendulum too far to one side. The politicians feel compelled to use their power to move the pendulum back in their favor. These legislative efforts are side effects to the summer of protests and riots we witnessed in 2020.
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That and the politicians want their 15 minutes.
 
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Cops are the most thin-skinned immature people in our society. And we've militarized them. Makes sense.
 
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McDad said:
From link (bold by me):
Under the legislation, anyone who “accosts, insults, taunts, or challenges a law enforcement officer with offensive or derisive words, or by gestures or other physical contact, that would have a direct tendency to provoke a violent response” would be guilty of a misdemeanor and face up to 90 days in jail and fines.

Garbage legislation. A R retired LEO sponsored this attack on free speech. Let's hope is fails in Ky's senate. Firstly, 'insults, taunts, or challenges'; are LEOs so emotionally immature they cannot handle being called ugly names? Secondly, 'a direct tendency to provoke a violent response', what??? Seems to me conservative-leaning folk have promoted abstinence as 100% effective; well, if the officers abstain from a violent response there will be no violent response.

Never in my life have I given a LEO any flak whatsoever. But I have been stopped by LEOs on power trips. Making those people a protected class in KY is bad juju.
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That’s so ridiculous
 
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Tyler Durden said:
Cops are the most thin-skinned immature people in our society. And we've militarized them. Makes sense.
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Red necks and thugs have thinner skin. Most officers I've come across are much thicker skinned than you give them credit for but there are bunch who can't take any kind of challenge any way but personally. It isn't even remotely police officers alone, it's our society in general.
 
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KB5252 said:
Red necks and thugs have thinner skin. Most officers I've come across are much thicker sounded than you give them credit for but there are bunch who can't take any kind of challenge personally. It isn't even remotely police officers alone, it's our society in general.
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Yep our society is pretty limp wristed.
 
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Tyler Durden said:
Cops are the most thin-skinned immature people in our society. And we've militarized them. Makes sense.
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I think we have to restrain ourselves from making broad brush character assessments based on the behavior of a few, well publicized, LEOs. Same is true for protesters, doctors, clergy, etc.

That being said, there are some who have no business having that much authority. My in law is a Narc officer in Missouri. He laments the knuckleheads who come out of the academy.
 
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McDad said:
I think we have to restrain ourselves from making broad brush character assessments based on the behavior of a few, well publicized, LEOs. Same is true for protesters, doctors, clergy, etc.

That being said, there are some who have no business having that much authority. My in law is a Narc officer in Missouri. He laments the knuckleheads who come out of the academy.
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I agree..... we also need better/different training, stop our over policing policies, and develop non-lethal weapons that can immobilize a suspect.... we have Outlawed billy clubs, most of the body weight holds officers can use.... a stun gun works sparingly.... we need to spend some to get realistic non-lethal weapons that work.
 
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McDad said:
From link (bold by me):
Under the legislation, anyone who “accosts, insults, taunts, or challenges a law enforcement officer with offensive or derisive words, or by gestures or other physical contact, that would have a direct tendency to provoke a violent response” would be guilty of a misdemeanor and face up to 90 days in jail and fines.

Garbage legislation. A R retired LEO sponsored this attack on free speech. Let's hope is fails in Ky's senate. Firstly, 'insults, taunts, or challenges'; are LEOs so emotionally immature they cannot handle being called ugly names? Secondly, 'a direct tendency to provoke a violent response', what??? Seems to me conservative-leaning folk have promoted abstinence as 100% effective; well, if the officers abstain from a violent response there will be no violent response.

Never in my life have I given a LEO any flak whatsoever. But I have been stopped by LEOs on power trips. Making those people a protected class in KY is bad juju.
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Don’t like all the verbiage in the law but definitely agree with provisions about pointing lasers in eyes, and making deafening bullhorn and other sounds directly in ears of officers. Or anyone else.
 
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Rickyvol77 said:
Don’t like all the verbiage in the law but definitely agree with provisions about pointing lasers in eyes, and making deafening bullhorn and other sounds directly in ears of officers. Or anyone else.
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I would easily support a bill dictating those types of things. Lazer pointers in eyes, bullhorns in ears, throwing urine or fecal matter, etc. Those are reasonable to me and not protected by free speech.
 
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McDad said:
I would easily support a bill dictating those types of things. Lazer pointers in eyes, bullhorns in ears, throwing urine or fecal matter, etc. Those are reasonable to me and not protected by free speech.
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I would think that those activities mentioned are all forms of assault already and we don’t need more redundant laws on the books. Save a tree.
 
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Tyler Durden said:
Cops are the most thin-skinned immature people in our society. And we've militarized them. Makes sense.
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I disagree with this however I don’t know about this law. I mean what is disorderly conduct for? Plus spitting and throwing items whatever they are is assault
 
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