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m1al said:
There is more to it than that. That's a speeding ticket to some of these guys.. It has to be more of a power play than saving a few million whild dragging the program thru a football field of doo doo...
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I would think so too. If I’m Pruitt’s counsel, I’m not accepting much of a deal. The only consideration would be a lump sum now as opposed to a payout pursuant to the contract.

Pruitt can play hardball because the school will pay much more in legal fees in the long run and open itself up to some things they may not want out.
 
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VolGee4 said:
That’s very tough to do. You have to get other high level schools to do it too. If we are the only school to offer heavy incentive-laden contracts, then our prospective pool drastically shrinks. It’s a market. The coaches that we would look at would simply wait it out until another university offers them more guarantees.
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It was a theory of one of the guys on the podcast. I am not savvy enough to even speculate on the viability of that strategy.

I will say, I'm in favor of anything that will start to move these contracts more towards performance based with low buyouts.. The way it is now, all you have to is get hired as HC, keep your nose clean and you're gonna make bank whether you're any good or not.. That's really messed up.
 
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SweetasSoda said:
No, actually we asked for the AD to fix a horrible situation not make it worse. Look at Texas. 7-3 but internal strife with the coach and little hope he would be able to go above that so they quickly and quietly took a chance on another coach that is bringing in a top caliber staff that already has Ty Simpson's attention. Yes, fans start screaming for the coach to be fired too soon, but this mess is not on the fans.
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No..maybe not, but I sure as hell didn't think we needed to burn it down to the ground. This mess is a great example of "be careful what you pitch a hissy fit for, because you may end up in a nightmare"

I had zero confidence they were going to get this right when they didn't fire him as soon as the season was over.

I personally earlier in the season did not want to fire Pruitt because I felt after the embarrassment of the last search we didn't need to jump so quickly on that carousel again, but it was apparent to anybody with a working brain that the situation had grown untenable thanks to his refusal to bench JG after Kentucky.

The fanbase as a whole may have felt uneasy about trashing a young man (rightly so) just trying to do his best and failing spectacularly, but they had no qualms about channeling and magnifying all that frustration and anger onto a dude making millions a year (rightfully so)

He needed to go at the end of the season...honorably..EVERYTHING that has happened since then is a inexcusable travesty, and for us a tragedy. Now we are looking at maybe the worst Tennessee season ever, and a nightmarish rebuilding period square in the face thanks to the admins inexcusable, and completely stupidly unnecessary bungling.
 
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Poppa T said:
Assuming the negotiated buyout term of 60% of annual salary is in effect, it would be 60% of ~$4m (whatever his exact annual salary is) lower. I think I read we would owe ~$12.5m, so (~$12.5m) - (~$2.4m). We'd save a couple million.
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I looked it up. He was extended by two years and given a $400K raise, so it would be well over $5M less..$7-ish instead of $12.5.
 
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Acuna_Matata said:
Supposedly Austin Price was saying the only way we could get Ty Simpson and some of the other '22 recruits was if Pruitt was the head coach
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Bruce Wayne said:
I never found that exact verbiage from AP on VQ. I saw where it looked like Pruitt was using landing Ty as a pitch to stay, but nothing where AP specifically said we wouldn’t land him without Pruitt, but I might’ve missed it.

It make sense Pruitt would try to use that for leverage and obviously a coaching change would present some challenges, but I don’t think they’re impossible to overcome if you hire the right staff with a plan for his development.
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Smyrna ATL Vol said:
He’s trying to save his boy Pruitt. So he is saying fans are a problem and the administration and everyone else other than the real problem, Pruitt. Don’t go 3-7 in year three and get blown out every week. That is what is killing recruiting. And the constant assistant shuffling, which is also because of Pruitt. Lucky for us Ty has major Tennessee influences. As long as we don’t make a terrible hire, he will be a Vol. Napier or Freeze would lock this damn state up.
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If this is the case then we would have to keep Pruitt at least 2 more years. This is laughable.
 
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I think Austin said it earlier this week, we have learned that Tennessee was interviewing people back in late November. Didn't know it at the time. But new it before they released the letter today. So the only thing really new in the letter was the cost, which is cheaper than I expected it would be.

I would bet then they were hired back in November, no one at Tennessee expected them to still be doing interviews in mid-January.
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-Hubbs
 
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VolGee4 said:
I would think so too. If I’m Pruitt’s counsel, I’m not accepting much of a deal. The only consideration would be a lump sum now as opposed to a payout pursuant to the contract.

Pruitt can play hardball because the school will pay much more in legal fees in the long run and open itself up to some things they may not want out.
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It all depends on what they dig up. Anything that's reasonably serious, the only hardball he can play is "I'll burn the house down" card.. Evidently that's the reason butch jones got his full buyout...
 
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VolGee4 said:
I believe Cut came the closest ever to have OM in the SEC Championship Game. If I recall, it was a bad call or at least a close call on a step out of bounds against LSU that prevented them from going.
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Freeze would have made it in 2015 without that wild ending against Arkansas right?

The 4th and 25 Alex Collins crazy TD in OT.
 
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seaofORANGE22 said:
Freeze would have made it in 2015 without that wild ending against Arkansas right?

The 4th and 25 Alex Collins crazy TD in OT.
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Yup. They’d have had the head to head over Bama and rematched with UF that year.

A couple of long miracle 4th down TD passes kept the SEC title game from being Ole Miss vs. Tennessee.
 
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