Recruiting Forum Football Talk III

[jakez4ut]

So we've gone from staffers dropping off UT apparel at KARM to leaving it curbside to selling it online. The orange apparel metric suggests we've bottomed out.

i sold a Peyton Manning jersey yesterday....so...yeah.

 

[Jackcrevol]

AP just needs to report and quit carrying water for Coach Pruitt.

personally think AP is burned out reporting same things, negative things over and over.

Do you mean to say you think he kisses Pruitts rear?

 

[volsnvikes]

I don’t have a disdain for Phillip. He is a friend (off the field) and was a hell of a football coach and did wonderful things for the program and the university in the hey day. But just because of that doesn’t give him a pass to do the things he has since becoming the AD. PERIOD.

Behind closed doors he has done more damage to the football program since he departed than any single person in the history of the program. If you ask any current coach who has been there since he has been AD in a closed room setting you would be astonished to hear the meddling and the toxic environment he has created. Trust me here...as more and more of this staff leave the more and more dirt will come out publicly about him and it will be a real bad look for him and the university for allowing it to happen.

There is a reason why you have a large conglomerate of very high profile boosters who have demanded him ride off into the sunset...guess we will see what happens.

I truly believe that Fulmer is doing WHAT HE THINKS is best for the program. He gives his ALL FOR TENNESSEE from his perspective. But I also believe he is wrong and what he is doing is more damaging than helpful.

His motivations may be good, but that doesn’t mean he is right.

 

[90 Vol]

WTF.... That's the whole point in "fight or flight".. If you choose flight, you better be able to run and soccer players CAN run..

That said, don't ever let size fool you. I guarantee many of those scrappy little f**kers would beat you like a rented mule...

 

[Rishvol]

Kinda chippy in here this morning....

 

[Dudleys87]

Supposedly Austin Price was saying the only way we could get Ty Simpson and some of the other '22 recruits was if Pruitt was the head coach

If we hired a replacement and they didn’t bother listening to the new coach they were never coming here to start with. Pruitt or not.

 

[voltn21]

Today’s the day... finally.

 

[Z06VolinWV]

Either the poster here quoted the article, or the article quotes the poster here???
Tennessee reportedly facing ‘serious investigation’ with Georgia potentially next: UGA ‘got sloppy in recruiting’

 

[gordonr24]

Signing day!? This can’t go on another month...

 

[m1al]

YES, that guy... He'll kick your ass with a cigarette hanging out of his mouth..

 

[HankHill]

Supposedly Austin Price was saying the only way we could get Ty Simpson and some of the other '22 recruits was if Pruitt was the head coach

Then we should expect all those recruits to follow Pruitt when he’s a DC next year.

 

[05_never_again]

Chavis' success was as a developer of talent. He also had them ready to bite nails at game time. However, his scheming did not keep up and it showed as his career winded down. I spent some good time talking with Cut before a Vandy game one year in Nashville. He was very gracious in doing so. The pick of the litter by far. Highly intelligent about the game and leading people in general. IMO he would have succeeded at about anything he chose to do in life because he had the discipline to deep dive and communicate well. The game has not passed Cut by even today. He just hasn't fully implemented the current concepts at Duke. He may be about to retire and does not want to commit to it, who knows. You are spot on with Fulmer.

Really good as three together in their prime.

Sometimes I wonder if Cutcliffe was actually better suited for the HC job here than Fulmer was. Fulmer was the more senior guy, so that's obviously how Fulmer got it to begin with, but I've always thought Cut was a better football mind and if you've had a chance to hear him speak, he definitely has better communication skills and more charisma than Fulmer.

 

[Bigworm87]

This will probably get buried in all of the stuff going on right now, but I'd encourage going and listening to this Jeff Fisher interview that he did yesterday. Here's a couple of cliff's notes

1.) Talks about how his buddy, Gregg Williams, based on how he called defenses in practice, probably affected he progression of Sam Darnold in NY. Also, Goff's progression in LA

2.) Says being a defensive guy, he let the OC call whatever he wanted and gave any suggestions when the offense came off the field. He would only meddle in the defensive calls on field, being a defensive minded coach.

3.) Mentions he has a staff ready and has had some opportunities to even get into the college game, but the situations weren't right.

In jest, he just hits the nail on the head as to what a defensive minded head coach should be and the complete opposite of what Pruitt is.

‎Pardon My Take on Apple Podcasts

Interview starts at 1:23:45

 

[VolsdeepVFL]

someone that coached for 30+ years, is out of the game?

i recall distinctly Fulmer's name being considered in NFL backintheday. Fulmer may not be Gruden or Belichick, but those dudes are propf that old school can still work.

Look, i'm not exactly in favor of a 100% I formation. But, sprinkled in, with some power or speed option plays, keeps a defense on its toes.

When Fulmer is gone people are def going to look back about how he was under appreciated.

Bro Fulmer is Les Miles

 

[RDU VOL#14]

I don’t have a disdain for Phillip. He is a friend (off the field) and was a hell of a football coach and did wonderful things for the program and the university in the hey day. But just because of that doesn’t give him a pass to do the things he has since becoming the AD. PERIOD.

Behind closed doors he has done more damage to the football program since he departed than any single person in the history of the program. If you ask any current coach who has been there since he has been AD in a closed room setting you would be astonished to hear the meddling and the toxic environment he has created. Trust me here...as more and more of this staff leave the more and more dirt will come out publicly about him and it will be a real bad look for him and the university for allowing it to happen.

There is a reason why you have a large conglomerate of very high profile boosters who have demanded him ride off into the sunset...guess we will see what happens.

I appreciate your info a lot, but this just sucks to read....

 

[MarcoVol]

Sometimes I wonder if Cutcliffe was actually better suited for the HC job here than Fulmer was. Fulmer was the more senior guy, so that's obviously how Fulmer got it to begin with, but I've always thought Cut was a better football mind and if you've had a chance to hear him speak, he definitely has better communication skills and more charisma than Fulmer.

Fulmer won a national championship. I’d say he was the best candidate for the job.

If you haven’t noticed, those aren’t easy to win. Picking a coach isn’t easy either apparently. See the last 12 years of UT football.

 

[LA Vol]

i sold a Peyton Manning jersey yesterday....so...yeah.

We're going to want to keep an eye on how quickly it sells to gauge the strength of the trend line.

 

[captainfalcon777]

I side With AV on this one. Fulmer has to stop meddling

Good luck with that. We all know Fulmer can’t help himself. Needs to go back into retirement ASAP

 

[RikidyBones]

All the soccer players I have ever met had better be able to run in a fight or flight situation.

Lol quit hanging around the U12 leagues, chief.

 

[OGbabyaviVol]

I don’t have a disdain for Phillip. He is a friend (off the field) and was a hell of a football coach and did wonderful things for the program and the university in the hey day. But just because of that doesn’t give him a pass to do the things he has since becoming the AD. PERIOD.

Behind closed doors he has done more damage to the football program since he departed than any single person in the history of the program. If you ask any current coach who has been there since he has been AD in a closed room setting you would be astonished to hear the meddling and the toxic environment he has created. Trust me here...as more and more of this staff leave the more and more dirt will come out publicly about him and it will be a real bad look for him and the university for allowing it to happen.

There is a reason why you have a large conglomerate of very high profile boosters who have demanded him ride off into the sunset...guess we will see what happens.

Tell the Haslams Volnation is begging for them to save our football program. Get Pruitt and Fulmer fired...hire a great AD and Freeze, and let’s go win a bunch of games!!

 

[jakez4ut]

We're going to want to keep an eye on how quickly it sells to gauge the strength of the trend line.

took about a week....lol. and i had to drop the price....

 

[Ulysees E. McGill]

What's the current situation like? Are we getting closer to final resolution and are the major players getting closer to being on the same page? IYO, who do you see coming in to get us rolling?

Not Atl...but I can tell you what are situation is like. It is like a car with four bad tires where you have a blowout, put on the spare, drive ten miles and another blowout..get a tow somewhere only to buy a couple of crappy used tires because you are a cheapass...then have another blowout the next day..and so on..and so on...and so on...until finally one day you finally wise up and get a good new set of tires instead of garbage.

That pretty much sums it up I think.

 

[Smyrna ATL Vol]

Buddy I'd probably run your ass into the ground in a game of soccer. You'd be huffin and puffin and barely able to move, bruised and battered while I'm looking for another game. You're the guy who asks the ref for time five minutes in. Gtfo with that Lmao

Lord help you if you had a match with @Smyrna ATL Vol and I.

My man. Haha! My mother in law went to one college soccer game and she said she couldn’t believe how physical the game was. She came to a good one where both teams had a couple shoving matches over some hard fouls.

 

[LA Vol]

I haven't been following AP's comments... but my guess is he's lost all patience with everything and everybody.

 

[Tennessee Stud]

I think Fulmer record without cut was 60 something and 30 something, idk the exact number. His record dramatically increased with Cut at UT in the 90s and back again in 06-07. Its a crazy number

61-26 with two eastern division titles without Cut. Pretty strong.