Recruiting Forum Football Talk III

[90 Vol]

Bowling Green: W
Pitt: L
South Alabama: W
Bama: L
Florida: L
Kentucky: L
Georgia: L
Ole Miss: L
Missouri: L
South Carolina: L
Vandy: W

What say you VN?

Please someone show me where 6 wins is...

South Carolina is a toss up. Either way, we won't get to 6 wins. I agree with the poster that set the O/U at 3.5 wins.

 

[HankHill]

chancellor@utk.edu

 

[Voltrapnbama]

I am usually very positive . Pruitt has made football very unenjoyable.

I'll never root for another team, EVER. Thats just not how I'm built. I'm also not built to make something that isn't something. Everything is what it is be is positive or negative. I'm not a optimist or pessimist, I'm a realist. I just have my opinion like everyone else and that is Pruitt isn't a good HEAD COACH and there's plenty to support that and not much to dispute it.

 

[snowvols]

Bowling Green: W
Pitt: L
South Alabama: W
Bama: L
Florida: L
Kentucky: L
Georgia: L
Ole Miss: L
Missouri: L
South Carolina: L
Vandy: W

What say you VN?

Please someone show me where 6 wins is...

We still have one more opponent to add and I'm sure it will be Chattanooga or someone like that. I think we win the two g5 games and probably South Carolina and Vandy. South Carolina seriously may be the worst P5 team in the country next season. I think we will be 5-7.

 

[Bassmaster_Vol]

He won't. He botched Bailey's FR year. I dont really expect anything any different next season. He played basically a game and a half- to two games with all the rotating when he could have a lot of experience going into next season. He also had him looking out of sorts by the end of the A&M game because he was afraid to make a mistake because he would pull him if anything went wrong, even if it wasn't his fault like at Vandy.

I still think we lose to Pitt and then he is fired about half way in after an SEC loss or two.

Yes, this is why we need a new QB coach and a new OC and Pruitt needs to let them do their job

 

[Smyrna ATL Vol]

We got embarrassed by Kentucky. Can’t count that as a W

I’m not counting anything as a win. I’m saying these are probably our only realistic wins.

 

[volbeast33]

Losing the big 3 hurt

Darrell Taylor
Bituli
Warrior

Alpha veteran leaders at every level of the defense.

I can agree with that..... also feeling more comfortable with veterans than some of the younger more talented players with no preseason practice.

 

[SmokinBob]

SIAP but does anyone have the Athletic article on Austin Pope, allegedly it was pretty damning

I read it - damning to who?

 

[rjd970]

I’m so tired of hearing this lie. AP is an idiot and a mouth piece. Recruiting is hurting because we are getting blown out every week and we won three games. Development is terrible and we aren’t drafting anyone. Everyone who is getting drafted were Butch players. Too Too, Thompson, Morris, and Gray are probably the only draft able players that were recruited by Pruitt. Recruiting sucks because Pruitt sucks.

This. Every bit of it. Thank you.

You want the fans to be more positive? How about winning some ****ing games, or at least be competitive. Record blowout losses doesn’t do much for fan optimism.

 

[Geronimo]

If he comes back he’ll be fired before ESD next year and there won’t be time for the new coach to build relationships which is why replacing him now is the only way to save the ‘22 class. Unless he wins 9+ next fall which we all know isn’t happening.

And just where have you been?! In our time of need and you just saunter in here unalarmed. It’s downright hurtful.

I forgive you.

 

[Bassmaster_Vol]

If he comes back he’ll be fired before ESD next year and there won’t be time for the new coach to build relationships which is why replacing him now is the only way to save the ‘22 class. Unless he wins 9+ next fall which we all know isn’t happening.

I agree. But they aren't going to fire him, Ron. We knew this, but it has now become reality. So, as you once told me, there's no use complaining about something we have no control over.

 

[scvolfan7]

Ga ranked 89th in team defense in 2013. In 2014 under Pruitt, 16. In 2015 under Pruitt, 8th. Try again

2014: 6-6 SC dropped 38 on them; 6-6 UT with banged up Worley dropped 32; 6-6 Arky dropped 32 on them; Treon Harris and will Muschamp scored 38 KY scored 31; GT scored 30. They did have impressive wins against Clemson before they were Clemson and Mehlzahn.

2015: much improved but any team with a pulse scored on them.

Pruitt isn’t that good of a DC

 

[VOLUNTEERSZN]

Bowling Green: W
Pitt: toss up (leaning W)
South Alabama: W
Whatever FCS opp we schedule: W
Florida: L
Georgia: L
South Carolina: W
Missouri: toss up (leaning L)
Alabama: L
Ole Miss: toss up (leaning L)
Kentucky: likely W
Vanderbilt: W

I’ll say 7-5 right now

No JG on the roster makes this team better already, we have a few guys in this class that’ll be instant impact guys and depending on Bailey/Salter progression and the transfer QB the playbook will be opened up a lot more offensively, hopefully Covid isn’t there to ravage the OL and DL. Think we’ll make a good enough hire to get a lot more out of those guys. The big concerns are pass rush and covering the slant, which will probably lead us to struggle against teams that score a bunch of points. This is probably what we would’ve been this season with a regular schedule anyways. Still not to what should be the standard but good enough to stabalize things and won’t cause a mass exodus of recruits

If you seriously think this team (without the burden of Guarantano and Will Friend) doing worse than a 6-6 record when we have cupcakes on the schedule, then you’re either too emotionally ridden on hating the current HC or mentally challenged. Too much talent on both sides for that to happen regardless who the HC is

That being said, 6-6 should get you fired at Tennessee.

 

[MarcoVol]

I don't agree with that. You could give Butch, or Dooley, or other ass coaches elite players and they wouldn't win championships with them. You could plug Butch in at Alabama today and he'd probably go 10-2.

All of these uber-successful coaches...Saban, Dabo, etc., have top tier talent. You simply have to have top tier talent in CFB to win at the highest level. You'll never see Saban take a ragtag team of high school rejects to a national title.

That’s why anyone who says Campbell isn’t a good option for coach is drunk. And I mean when we actually have an opening or when we are discussing the fantasy land where Pruitt is fired.

Dude has had success with below average recruiting. Now, is he a good recruiter? Maybe not. But the guy can coach. He’ll never win truly big unless he has elite players but he’s winning at a below average program with below average players.

 

[Johnny Majors' Ghost]

The only spread that interests Pruitt is how much butter to put on his cornbread.

 

[ugg]

Just a thought ... if CJP is kept, and Chaney is replaced ... how bout Chadwell for OC? It'd be a big pay raise (think he's around 400,000 right now at CCU), he's from the area, and maybe he'd bring his QB Grayson McCall with him.

Probably not a popular thing to state here, but it could be interesting.
CCU has been fun to watch this year.

FWIW Doug Matthews said on the Zone this morning that Pruitt likes Chaney and has faith in him. He said he expects Chaney to be given more control next year, and will likely coach QB's.

 

[Ron Swanson]

Bowling Green: W
Pitt: L
South Alabama: W
Bama: L
Florida: L
Kentucky: L
Georgia: L
Ole Miss: L
Missouri: L
South Carolina: L
Vandy: W

What say you VN?

Please someone show me where 6 wins is...

6 would be about the best Pruitt could do next fall with that schedule. More likely 4 or 5 wins. Which means we’ll be back here next November in a coaching search and watching all those top instate ‘22 kids go elsewhere as we scramble to find a bargain bin replacement. So stupid. But that’s what UT does. Sigh...

 

[Dudleys87]

We still have one more opponent to add and I'm sure it will be Chattanooga or someone like that. I think we win the two g5 games and probably South Carolina and Vandy. South Carolina seriously may be the worst P5 team in the country next season. I think we will be 5-7.

it sucks that this is all we look forward to

 

[Cactus Jack]

As a radio host, he needs listeners so he constantly fans the flames. He doesn't know anything. He's just listening to people's opinions and stating them on the radio. The difference is that he has a microphone instead of a key board.

I'm sorry but I have to LOL @ any poster on here who he himself does not know anything claiming that TB or any other radio host "Doesn't know anything". Wouldn't you yourself have to be an insider in order to know that a guy like Tony is not an insider? I'm not saying the dude is plugged in to everything that goes on but i can assure you he does have some sources that get him legit info.

With that being said, of course he embellishes things for radio listeners.. I'm sure he likes to make money and he knows that controversy sells. But all of this "XYZ radio guy don't know nothing" stuff is just a bit silly to me.

 

[HankHill]

I can agree with that..... also feeling more comfortable with veterans than some of the younger more talented players with no preseason practice.

Honest question: why is it that under Pruitt it’s basically just assumed that the young guys are always more talented or better. I don’t feel like we did that as much with other coaches. Maybe kiffin.

 

[Catbone]

AP and Hubbs have been saying a lot of recruits are reading the board and that fan response is hurting the recruiting. I wouldn't typically care, but if this staff is coming back, we need to land that in state class next year. It is loaded and could change the direction of the program.

Then show a better product on the field. It's been 15 years. At what point should the fan base expect average coaching?

We are asking not for great coaching, just average. Since 2005 there are only a few times we have had seasons that have been just average by Tennessee standards.

 

[rjd970]

Ole Miss and the fighting Kiffin’s are going to embarrass us next year.

 

[ndubvols]

I’m so tired of hearing this lie. AP is an idiot and a mouth piece. Recruiting is hurting because we are getting blown out every week and we won three games. Development is terrible and we aren’t drafting anyone. Everyone who is getting drafted were Butch players. Too Too, Thompson, Morris, and Gray are probably the only draft able players that were recruited by Pruitt. Recruiting sucks because Pruitt sucks.

I mean pruitts classes literally haven’t been draft eligible, so I guess your technically correct that they’ve been butch players.

 

[Smyrna ATL Vol]

Disagree. Pruitt's first full class are sophomores. We have barely seen what the freshmen can do. To say that those few are the only draft able players is very foolish. 2020 class was loaded with a lot of good players. We'll see if they're developed. But that's a very shortsighted comment.

It’s the truth right now. He has hurt Palmers draft status. Trey was a top pick as a freshmen but he has regressed too. This was the worst coached team maybe in the history of our program and that is from many VFL’s. Development is beyond bad.

 

[Ron Swanson]

And just where have you been?! In our time of need and you just saunter in here unalarmed. It’s downright hurtful.

I forgive you.

Lol. Sorry, busy working.