In the beginning, the ONLY negative thing I ever really heard Tony say about Barnes was that he didn't think Barnes was recruiting at a very high level his first couple of years here and that Rick didn't seem to put the same effort in recruiting that the other high profile coaches were. At the time it seemed like a very reasonable assumption to be honest with you. A lot of us thought Barnes was simply coming here to stabilize the program and cruise to retirement and, honestly, I kind of believe that was HIS thinking until he got here and realized just how passionate this fanbase really is about basketball. Anyway, let's be honest, the recruiting really didn't kick it into high gear until Kim English got here. He's helped take our recruiting to another level. But of course, let's give credit where it's due. The on court success that Barnes has brought, along with improving the culture of our B-Ball program and developing our players is nothing short of amazing! Without that, the lakes we are fishing in now for recruits simply wouldn't be possible. Tony has owned up to and confessed that he was flat out wrong about Barnes time and time again in all kinds of self-deprecating ways. Like you said, what else can the man say or do? He was wrong and he points it out every chance he gets.