Now that CJP is believed to be staying.... [wins next year]

#27
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The Tall Gguy said:
I am far more concerned with the fact our Athletic department is incompetent to make a good hire even if Pruitt is ever fired.
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This.

After the stupid little stunt they pulled over there this weekend, leaking that info right at kickoff... I have no confidence they have learned their lesson since the last hiring fiasco.

Like people aren’t fed up enough. They decide in their infinite wisdom to throw gas onto the fire.

Look around, anybody else conduct business like the 8th grade drama club? Me neither...other schools can go out and hire a coach, conduct business in house...it’s ridiculous.
 
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Orangeslice13 said:
How many wins saves his job next year?

Try to remember this isn’t what the fans think should be the number. I think 9 should be the floor. This is what we think the university will actually require. This goes beyond Fulmer. I believe the administration simply doesn’t care. I think my university is so inept and cares so little about winning that 7 and maybe even 6 gives us another year of CJP.


And the garbage continues.
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If they’re willing to keep him through this season, 6 wins will save his job next season with a probable raise and extension. Yes.. our program has been compromised that much. Leadership is vital and we don’t have it.
 
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I don't know who the so called "cupcakes" are next year but what happens if we lose to 1 or 2 of them? Like a GA. ST.
This year JP/PF have a excuse that we had to play a all SEC schedule. Anyone wonder what would have appended if JP
had lost 1 or 2 of those cupcake games this year? We will never know.
 
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It really shouldn't be about simply a win total. Jones won 8 games in the regular season in year four, and, still, it was pretty obvious he wasn't going to make it.

For 2021, the three currently scheduled OOC games are two complete cupcakes and a very average ACC school. I would have to assume at this point that the fourth will be a blood donor as well, being it will be scheduled so late in the process. While history shows we can't assume they are all wins, for the sake of discussion, I am going to.

8-4 would be a .500 season in the SEC. It assumes he loses to the big three plus one other. if the losses to the big 3 are blowouts, I personally think we will have seen all we need to see.

If he wins the other five conference games and competes in the big 3 losses, he probably deserves another year.

If he has a win against the big 3 but trades it for a bad loss, then...?

That said, if the first scenario happens, don't be surprised if he's on the sideline in '22.
 
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Volsfaninva917 said:
Depends on how many tickets the sheep buy
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That will be inflated because I suspect a large number of season ticket holders rolled over this year's donation/ticket fee to next year instead of getting their money back. That gives the AD more season tickets sold for next year than would likely had occurred if everyone took a refund on this year and had to ante up again next year.

I know after taking season tickets this year (and regretting it now), I'm out next season. I'll buy single games for anything I want to go to plus it's the "off year" in the rotation with Bama and UF away so my guess single game seats will be plentiful and cheap.
 
#33
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Already talking about next year, nothing changes accept the results and pay for tickets like mindless zombies in the stand. No thanks I’m checked out until they make a change not supporting Idiocracy any longer.
 
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SaintLouisVol said:
It really shouldn't be about simply a win total. Jones won 8 games in the regular season in year four, and, still, it was pretty obvious he wasn't going to make it.

For 2021, the three currently scheduled OOC games are two complete cupcakes and a very average ACC school. I would have to assume at this point that the fourth will be a blood donor as well, being it will be scheduled so late in the process. While history shows we can't assume they are all wins, for the sake of discussion, I am going to.

8-4 would be a .500 season in the SEC. It assumes he loses to the big three plus one other. if the loses to the big 3 are blowouts, I personally think we will have seen all we need to see.

If he wins the other five conference games and competes in the big 3 losses, he probably deserves another year.

If he has a win against the big 3 but trades it for a bad loss, then...?

That said, if the first scenario happens, don't be surprised if he's on the sideline in '22.
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I agree
 
#37
#37
Think it’ll be less about the record and more about signs of progress with the program.

If we continue to decline in recruiting, continue to see lack of player development (especially at QB), and still can’t compete with anyone; then he’s gone. That’s not even counting anything that comes out of this investigation.
 
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My opinion JP went 5-7 first year and then 8-5 second year and 3-7 maybe 3-8 depending the outcome of the WV game. So I’m theory your suppose to either maintain the same succes you had the prior year or over achieve . We went backwards big time this year. So I’m goikg to say 8 wins again is needed or should be the requirement . Just like any fan here I just want to win again and be relevant in the college football world .
 
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Doesn’t matter what our record is any longer. The once proud Vol FB program is now trash. Along the lines of Vandy. The Admin no longer cares about winning. Players have low expectations because the coaches and Admin have low expectations.

On the bright side my Saturdays have opened up since I no longer evolve plans around Vol FB.

My 25 year old son asked me just a few days ago about going to a game next year. I told him that’s not happening until the program makes a commitment to winning. I’m not wasting nearly a grand or more to watch a team that can’t beat Georgia State at the moment.
 
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5 will be good enough to stick around.
7 probably earns him a raise an extension.
 
#42
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It's pretty simple, I think.

He has to challenge for the East. Serious challenge, one that either we win, or remains close right up to the last game or two of the season.

I don't know if that translates into 9 wins, or 8, or 10, but that's what it will take.

This season was--or would have been, in a normal year--a 6-6 result. Add three cupcakes, take away one harder game, and you have a "normal" schedule, a schedule just like every team in the SEC plays, every year. So, 6-6.

Which is not as horrific as some of you portray, with all the hair you're pulling out and gnashing of teeth you're enjoying. Don't get me wrong, 6-6 is certainly not good. It is _not_ where we should be in Year 3. He failed, this season. Specifically, he lost to Kentucky and Arkansas, two games he absolutely should not have lost. He stuck with JG too long. He didn't have the offensive line as developed as their collective natural talent indicated they should be. The receivers weren't getting open. The defensive backs were spotty at coverage, both man-on-man and zone. All parts of the team made dumb mistakes far too often, resulting in both penalties and turnovers.

So sure, we should've been much farther along in Year 3 than we were. But it still wasn't as bad as some here are making out. It wasn't "the worst season ever." It wasn't close to that. It wasn't nearly as bad as Butch's last season (remember: we did have 3 cupcake games that year, and still went 4-8...Under coronavirus conditions, that would've been a 1-9 year).

So, all that said, Pruitt's in a dog house. Yes, with Phillip Fulmer. Who loves Tennessee a helluva lot more than he likes Pruitt, though I do think he likes him just fine. Who, I believe (though I could be wrong here) actually loves Tennessee even more than he loves his own well-being. And would sacrifice himself for the program, if it came to that.

So I don't think Fulmer would have any trouble firing Pruitt & Co. if we don't see success in Year 4.

And the undeniable definition of Success in year 4 of a proud program with our lineage is being back. Back to challenging for championships.

Nothing less will do.
 
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Orangeslice13 said:
How many wins saves his job next year?

Try to remember this isn’t what the fans think should be the number. I think 9 should be the floor. This is what we think the university will actually require. This goes beyond Fulmer. I believe the administration simply doesn’t care. I think my university is so inept and cares so little about winning that 7 and maybe even 6 gives us another year of CJP.


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After he gets blown out by West Virginia yet again.....there still could be a chance he gets fired....slim but a chance.
 
#45
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Rickyvol77 said:
8-4 or better and there is a discussion.

7-5 or less, he's probably gone

losing record, no chance he's here
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I’m not sure anymore. If losing 70% of your games in a season AND getting busted at cheating doesn’t get you fired? What does it take? Getting busted with a carload of hookers and blow?

I don’t see Pruitt doing any better than 6-6 next season, and that appears to be good enough for Ol’ Phil.
 
#46
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99gator said:
I think 7. They’ll sell it as a 4 game improvement when it’s just the cupcakes that bump up the win total.

Florida
Georgia
Alabama

Toss ups
South Carolina
Missouri
Kentucky
Pitt
Ole miss
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With coaching and the produce we've seen the only game I see above that's we should win is South Carolina. Looks like another losing season and then they'll change direction and repeat it again for 4 more years unless they do something big and bring in a big time winning coach.
 
#47
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I'm guessing zero. if they keep him this year then it means UTK is pretty much giving up on football and will settle for 0-12 if it saves them a buck. they know they can count on Slice and Noggin to fund the program.
 
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VolFreakJosh said:
It’s cute to think some of you Pruitt has a chance in hell winning 8 games next year.
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74charger said:
Does anyone with a brain really think he’s going to go from 3 wins this year to 8 or 9 next year?! I bet more like 4 or 5.
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I didn't think folks were talking about what he WOULD do in this thread, only what he would NEED to do to keep his job. But I didn't read every post in the thread, so maybe someone did respond that way.
 
#50
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Barring a loss to Bowling Green in Neyland, if he gets 7 wins we will "welcome the continued improvement and look forward Coach Pruitt's continued leadership in 2022....."

TN is rapidly approaching the resignation stage. "Well, we haven't beaten FL but once in 15 years, so I'm not sure what expectations were for that game. Georgia and Alabama are powerhouse teams that could beat anybody in the country. We've gone head to head with South Carolina over the years and they were really good this year......"

Welcome to the new normal in Tennessee football.

6-7 wins and nothing more expected.
 
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