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I’m not a trumpeter nor underachieving or socially inadequate. I don’t know what your weird standard of “masculinity deficient” is but everyone here sees your lack of self awareness of being hypocritical, your refusal to respond to simple questions and resorting to namecalling, as well your weak points as clear evidence you have no basis in reality and logic

Good for you. Your posts speak for themslves
 
Expert opinion is the weakest form of scientific evidence. And if you look at the information they are using to form those opinions, there are significant flaws.

I wear a mask. Mostly because it’s easy and if it helps, great. If not, I personally don’t feel infringed upon. I feel it’s a compromise to “protect the vulnerable.” I don’t want to be told I have to be locked down at home. But neither does the 65yo mildly obese diabetic. So we compromise. I wear a mask, we all get to live a little more freely until it’s over.
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Record deaths again yesterday. Coming back just as those expert opinions said it would. Get back to us on 2/02/2020 with the death count. Se how it matches up to those expert opinions which do change every time they get data causing those opinions to change
 
Record deaths again yesterday. Coming back just as those expert opinions said it would. Get back to us on 2/02/2020 with the death count. Se how it matches up to those expert opinions which do change every time they get data causing those opinions to change

We have record deaths despite folks wearing masks everywhere, not traveling, not attending large Thanksgiving/holiday gatherings etc etc.
 
That kind of stuff blows my mind. I just assume they did have it, asymptomatic.
I would think either they did, or some people have immune responses that keep them from catching it. I’ve heard there’s a study out of Europe now that seems to suggest the hormone DHT plays a significant role in how sick someone gets from the virus.
 
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The only solution is to lock the entire country down except for the political elite. They are too important to follow their rules.
That’s because they’re not stupid. Depraved yes, stupid no. IMO it is a waste of time to try to reason with folks who abhor reason and logic. Those who say they follow the scientist, as if the Barrington Declaration doesn’t exist and the science is some monolithic fact. They are not going to be open to unmasking or not locking down until they’re approved political authority figure tells them it’s ok.
 
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Expert opinion is the weakest form of scientific evidence. And if you look at the information they are using to form those opinions, there are significant flaws.

I wear a mask. Mostly because it’s easy and if it helps, great. If not, I personally don’t feel infringed upon. I feel it’s a compromise to “protect the vulnerable.” I don’t want to be told I have to be locked down at home. But neither does the 65yo mildly obese diabetic. So we compromise. I wear a mask, we all get to live a little more freely until it’s over.
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I’m sorry I tried to let this slide but I can’t. Expert opinion is typically deemed to be expert after the expert has collected evidentiary data or relevant experience on which their opinion is based
 
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We have record deaths despite folks wearing masks everywhere, not traveling, not attending large Thanksgiving/holiday gatherings etc etc.


What’s the use? Airline travel claimed to be the same this year as last fir Thanksgiving. People did it in spite of urging not to. Good for them

You’re kidding yourself if you think everyone is wearing a mask and socially distancing. There are just too many defiant immature babies who aren’t going to be told what to do as is evidenced by replies to this thread
 
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What’s the use? Airline travel claimed to be the same this year as last fir Thanksgiving. People did it in spite of urging not to. Good for them

You’re kidding yourself if you think everyone is wearing a mask and socially distancing. There are just too many defiant immature babies who aren’t going to be told what to do as is evidenced by replies to this thread
Millions fewer people traveled this year
Here’s How Many People Flew for Thanksgiving, and What It Means for Airline Stocks
 
The only solution is to lock the entire country down except for the political elite. They are too important to follow their rules.


If this thing keeps ratcheting up as the experts have been warning it will do all through the summer it may come to that

Did you watch the Biden interview last night? Effective with his inauguration Masks will be required in every federal building in the Country (i would guess it already is) and in interstate travel

He will also request everyone to voluntarily wear masks in the first 100 days

The hell of it is if instead of contradicting his own agencies Trump had embraced their recommendations and positively supported them by example instead of ridiculing the and politicizing and dividing as he did he most likely would have been elected to a second term
 
If this thing keeps ratcheting up as the experts have been warning it will do all through the summer it may come to that

Did you watch the Biden interview last night? Effective with his inauguration Masks will be required in every federal building in the Country (i would guess it already is) and in interstate travel

He will also request everyone to voluntarily wear masks in the first 100 days

The hell of it is if instead of contradicting his own agencies Trump had embraced their recommendations and positively supported them by example instead of ridiculing the and politicizing and dividing as he did he most likely would have been elected to a second term
Whatever the dementia patient asks me to do, I am going to do the complete opposite
 
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If this thing keeps ratcheting up as the experts have been warning it will do all through the summer it may come to that

Did you watch the Biden interview last night? Effective with his inauguration Masks will be required in every federal building in the Country (i would guess it already is) and in interstate travel

He will also request everyone to voluntarily wear masks in the first 100 days

The hell of it is if instead of contradicting his own agencies Trump had embraced their recommendations and positively supported them by example instead of ridiculing the and politicizing and dividing as he did he most likely would have been elected to a second term

I'm convinced that Biden will save us all.
 
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Do these bans work? A couple of weeks ago Michigan and Kentucky instituted a ban on indoor dining. Ohio did not. Neither MI or KY has seen much if any movement of the C19 needle. Gov Beshear announced the ban on a day that KY had 2753 cases. They had 4K three days ago followed by 3782 two days ago, 3784 yesterday. MI has had 32,783 cases in the past four days. OH has had 32,860. Both KY and MI have more cases per capita than OH. So do restaurants really make much difference? I'd say not and all the pain imparted onto restaurant owners and employees is not worth the gain, if any, in fighting this virus.
 
If this thing keeps ratcheting up as the experts have been warning it will do all through the summer it may come to that

Did you watch the Biden interview last night? Effective with his inauguration Masks will be required in every federal building in the Country (i would guess it already is) and in interstate travel

He will also request everyone to voluntarily wear masks in the first 100 days

The hell of it is if instead of contradicting his own agencies Trump had embraced their recommendations and positively supported them by example instead of ridiculing the and politicizing and dividing as he did he most likely would have been elected to a second term

That stupid f***** can kiss my a**. I’m not participating in this charade to make people feel better. These idiots want to shut everyone else down, giving zero sh*** about stopping their income or ruining businesses they’ve spent years building. What have they given up? How many paychecks they missing out on? F*** all of them. I’m going to carry on as normal.
 
We have record deaths despite folks wearing masks everywhere, not traveling, not attending large Thanksgiving/holiday gatherings etc etc.
I know plenty of people that have completely ignored that. Traveled. Gathered in large groups. Thumbed their nose and mocked the virus as a hoax.
 
I’m sorry I tried to let this slide but I can’t. Expert opinion is typically deemed to be expert after the expert has collected evidentiary data or relevant experience on which their opinion is based

You are correct. And yet expert opinion remains the weakest form of scientific evidence.
 
Do these bans work? A couple of weeks ago Michigan and Kentucky instituted a ban on indoor dining. Ohio did not. Neither MI or KY has seen much if any movement of the C19 needle. Gov Beshear announced the ban on a day that KY had 2753 cases. They had 4K three days ago followed by 3782 two days ago, 3784 yesterday. MI has had 32,783 cases in the past four days. OH has had 32,860. Both KY and MI have more cases per capita than OH. So do restaurants really make much difference? I'd say not and all the pain imparted onto restaurant owners and employees is not worth the gain, if any, in fighting this virus.
Targeting restaurants is unconscionable. Spoke with @volfanhill 2 weeks ago. Not one case contact traced back to a restaurant. And the media would be all over it happened.
So many mom n pop places are gone forever.
 
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