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kiddiedoc said:
Yes
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No, not if they are the type with portals.
LouderVol said:
Everything will not be ok if you keep shutting businesses down. You take down any part of the medical supply chain due to other industries not being allowed to stay oper as tional and your whole house of cards comes down.
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You say that as if I were suggesting that all businesses like medical supplies be shut down. Where did I write that, besides nowhere? I find it strange that every reply to my posts is some tangential objection, instead of a continuation of conversation. It's as if you cannot read for the purpose of understanding and contributing. Not at all. You can only read for the purpose of reacting badly with some sideways comment, against what is written. I'm talking about my experience with posts here. Is there anybody here who can read for the purpose of understanding? Anybody?
 
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Vol Main said:
Say something that isn't stupid. I am tired of wasting my time with one knee jerk negative reply after another.
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You might want to waste your time by actually studying viral transmission, reading medical journals, or gaining experience in diagnosing and treating infectious diseases.

You're obviously a lost cause, so don't expect any more responses from me. Good night.
 
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OHvol40 said:
I don’t believe they are a “savior.” Nothing is a “savior” as you put it. It’s risk mitigation... and most people need to mitigate risk within reason for the strategy to work. It can’t be sporadic or selective, it also needs to be consistent from state to state. This idea that each state in the contiguous US making separate policies for a global pandemic is quite possibly the dumbest thing I’ve heard in a long time... and I heard don don try to guess the cure for covid in a press conference.
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The one size fits all approach makes no sense. If there was a fire in your kitchen you wouldn't spray the fire extinguisher in each room an equal amount of time. We locked down states that had no business being locked down, our county was brought to a standstill and kids lost 3 months of school because 30-40 people had this. It made no sense. The virus has predictably spread from cities with large international airports to those with big domestic airports, and radiated outward from large cities to small cities. But we attempted to close everything down at once which served no purpose in those areas that were lightly affected if at all. Locking down Bucksnort because people in Brooklyn are dying doesn't fix things or mitigate the spread. It's just posturing. States and counties should have the latitude to decide what they do to their economies. It's still baffling to me that people who think Trump is the worst person to ever live also want him to crawl up their ass and dictate their lives and livelihoods.
 
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kiddiedoc said:
Please recuse yourself. Thanks.
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"Some N95 masks, and even some cloth masks, have one-way valves that make them easier to breathe through. But because the valve releases unfiltered air when the wearer breathes out, this type of mask doesn't prevent the wearer from spreading the virus. For this reason, some places have banned them."
Can face masks protect against the coronavirus?

If the mask has an exhale valve, the valve is not filtered. It is closed during inhalation and open during exhalation. You might want to check with 3M before making any further issue of it.
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kiddiedoc said:
You might want to waste your time by actually studying viral transmission, reading medical journals, or gaining experience in diagnosing and treating infectious diseases.

You're obviously a lost cause, so don't expect any more responses from me. Good night.
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"And last week, Dr. Anthony Fauci told Congress that the U.S could see 100,000 new coronavirus cases each day if we do not take more precautions. This is why as physicians, nurses, hospital and health system leaders, researchers and public health experts, we are urging the American public to take the simple steps we know will help stop the spread of the virus: wearing a face mask..."
AHA, AMA, ANA Open Letter Urging Public to Wear a Mask to Stop COVID-19 Spread | AHA

"Primary benefits of wearing a mask include limiting the spread of the virus from someone who knows or does not know they have an infection to others."
Masks and COVID-19

"Can face masks help slow the spread of the coronavirus (SARS-CoV-2) that causes COVID-19? Yes..."
Can face masks protect against the coronavirus?
 
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Vol Main said:
"And last week, Dr. Anthony Fauci told Congress that the U.S could see 100,000 new coronavirus cases each day if we do not take more precautions. This is why as physicians, nurses, hospital and health system leaders, researchers and public health experts, we are urging the American public to take the simple steps we know will help stop the spread of the virus: wearing a face mask..."
AHA, AMA, ANA Open Letter Urging Public to Wear a Mask to Stop COVID-19 Spread | AHA
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He said we didn’t need to wear masks......then said he lied and meant that we did.
 
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C-south said:
He said we didn’t need to wear masks......then said he lied and meant that we did.
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You might bear in mind that Dr. Fauci was loathe to urge the public to wear masks at a time of national shortage, when avaialble supplies were urgently needed by medical professionals working in hospital wards filled with covid patients. He made that reasoning clear in subsequent statements.

The letter appealing to the public to wear masks is from the American Hospital Association, the American Medical Association, and the American Nurses Association.
AHA, AMA, ANA Open Letter Urging Public to Wear a Mask to Stop COVID-19 Spread | AHA
 
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Vol Main said:
You might bear in mind that Dr. Fauci was loathe to urge the public to wear masks at a time of national shortage, when avaialble supplies were urgently needed by medical professionals working in hospital wards filled with covid patients. He made that reasoning clear in subsequent statements.

The letter appealing to the public to wear masks is from the American Hospital Association, the American Medical Association, and the American Nurses Association.
AHA, AMA, ANA Open Letter Urging Public to Wear a Mask to Stop COVID-19 Spread | AHA
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theFallGuy said:
A New Study Questions Whether Masks Protect Wearers. You Need to Wear Them Anyway.
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Interesting article by the Times. I didn’t actually read the study, though. They state a weakness was that Denmark had a low infection rate at the time, 2%. Interestingly, both groups were infected right at 2%.

Comments made are mostly by those in support of mask wearing. And those are appeals to authority and emotion. The one actual data based, factual comment is:

“But Dr. Christine Laine, editor in chief of the Annals of Internal Medicine, described the previous evidence that masks protect wearers as weak. “These studies cannot differentiate between source control and personal protection of the mask wearer,” she said.”
 
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