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volfaninpa said:
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When you hire an unqualified athletic director Part 1: You get what’s happening at Tennessee, where Phillip Fulmer bid against himself to give Jeremy Pruitt an extension and raise this offseason. It’s a classic move for a novice AD. On the West Coast they call this “pulling a Lynn Swann” for his Clay Helton extension. Pruitt’s buyout is more than $12.5 million, which considering the miserable state of Tennessee’s finances before the pandemic would seem to be untenable. But with Tennessee, emotion and meddling boosters have long won out over logic. The Vols are 2-4, and there’s a clear path to a 3-7 finish. If there’s one thing we’ve learned about Tennessee the last dozen years, a complete administrative mess is the baseline expectation.
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When Fulmer was named AD, I was against it. I know he is VFL and I want him to succeed just like I want Pruitt to succeed. My greatest fear was that CPF would want credit for resurrecting the football program and hire accordingly. I was afraid he would not want a proven coach instead he would want a coach to mold, mentor, and meddle. I hope that my fears have not become a reality, but this extension has really backfired. Fulmer’s solution will be get a new assistants, but it may be too late. I hope CPF surprises me and proves me wrong.
 
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BAJAvol said:
It's obvious someone is in Lowe's ear to keep pressing this statement. I would assume Freeze's agent.
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No doubt. UT is not his dream job. He may want it right now...over a program like USC. But HF was born in Oxford, went to Senatobia High, and is a Mississippi boy.

We have a local guy on radio who covered OM when Freeze was there. He said Freeze sent texts to journalists last year saying he was interviewing for the OC jobs at Bama and UT when that was not the case.
 
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KB5252 said:
If he can get the Auburn job he'll go. I don't think he'd take the SC job but I could be wrong.
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This puts me in a weird position where I'm hoping AU beats UT so it makes a case for AU keeping Gus and UT tightening the noose on Pruitt.

And I hate hate hate hate that this program that I love is even making this an option to consider for me.
 
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Z06VolinWV said:
I will honestly say this is the first time in my life watching VOLS fb that Idgas anymore. I’ll still tune into here and the games, but my “want” for this program to be relevant has just about completely diminished.
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Last few games I have wanted just to turn off the games in the 4th quarter. I have never had that feeling before.
 
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Z06VolinWV said:
I will honestly say this is the first time in my life watching VOLS fb that Idgas anymore. I’ll still tune into here and the games, but my “want” for this program to be relevant has just about completely diminished.
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It's strange. Years ago had a game been cancelled because of a pandemic I would have been really bummed and pissed.

I really and honestly don't even care we aren't playing this weekend. I haven't even given it a second thought and deep down, I'm relieved I don't have to watch a **** show.
 
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millst987 said:
Hire Freeze as HC and keep Pruitt as DC
It would be the most cost effective option
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Yeah I agree, but Pruitt would hop back Alabama in a heartbeat if that was to happen. I still believe he hoped to use Tennessee as a springboard to get the Bama job after Saban retires. It looks like that’s never going to happen.
 
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UTSuave’ said:
Miss you already @JacketVol 🥺😭😭 but give @jackcrevol the low down on why you didn’t like Pruitt 😁🤞🏽🤞🏽 He doesn’t believe the backstory
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Last thing I will post for awhile. Long story short, Jeremy had the info to contact the kid and his dad. He did not ever do it. Some of his Bama friends were trying and even Pruitt's mom was involved. He acted like he did not remember anything the other day. I don't think he hates kids but he probably meant to do something but then he forgot or whatever where it slipped thru the cracks. Regardless, others took the ball and the kid and his father were allowed to use a skybox and got to meet Coach Fulmer. It was a great experience made to happen with VFL's. Do not really care about jackcrevol and what he believes or not. Just got me started out on a bad foot and told Pruitt as much the other day. Of course that was before the Arky game. I just want to win football games and hear Neyland roar again.
 
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SIAP, Hubbs latest article...

VolQuest - Turn them loose

Something obviously isn’t right, but how can they fix it? The reality is that the Vols will be underdogs in three of their final four games and a quick fix isn’t walking through the door.

But Jeremy Pruitt has to do something because the fan base is growing very weary of him. He’s already fired a coach this season and that’s led to minimal results. I don’t expect him to fire anyone before season’s end. So what’s the move?

Turn the freshmen loose.

Let’s see more Harrison Bailey. Let’s see those young receivers, Dee Beckwith, Key Lawrence, Bryson Eason and so on. I’m not dogging the veterans, but the reality is you’re likely to go 3-7 even if you play the older guys. If that’s basically inevitable, let everyone see the young players. You get to see how they react in game situations and they will offer some hope about things going forward. In reality, it can be the spring practice that you didn’t get to have.

Here’s the other thing college coaches must realize: if the one-time transfer rule comes into play, then you're going to have all kinds of potential things to deal with. Fans see the transfer rule as a positive because you can go out there and get who you want to fix a problem on the roster. Few think about the other side and that’s in regards to the players who might leave you.

Saturday night, Dee Beckwith tweeted out a message that could certainly be interpreted as possible unhappiness with playing time. The message was later deleted.

But in this day and age, players have no issue with packing up and leaving. If the rule is passed in January then leaving will be easier than ever. And players have less patience than ever. Wait for your turn? You have to be kidding? Johnny not only isn’t waiting for his turn in 2020; he’s already transferred to a rival school and is dogging the old place on social media. That’s the new norm.

Tennessee fans themselves are out of patience, but they can’t transfer. They are tired of taking a step forward and two steps back over the last year. They are tired of seeing this team not finish games. No production or excitement on offense. They are over not seeing their defense stop a slant. They are quickly getting weary of their coach.

Jeremy Pruitt has plenty of challenges over the next month. None bigger than holding a roster and recruiting class together. To do that he needs to show growth and hope for the future

Play the kids, Coach. If you do, you will know exactly what you have and what you need heading into 2021. And it can quiet an understandably angry fan base, a fan base that has no interest in 32 more days of whatever the hell it is that they have been seeing.
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We need Freeze. It’s the only way out of this mess. He wants this job. Someone else will hire him. In my opinion this is a critical point in UT football. Hire Freeze and we have a legitimate shot at rescuing the program. Let him walk and we are still in this cycle. This is the first real shot UT has had at getting a proven head coach.
 
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UTSuave’ said:
🥴 oof....my bad because SC and Missouri are something to brag about 😂😅 did butch ever get blown out by Kentucky at home?..apples to oranges my ass..it fits along the same guidelines that got butch fired and he did have more wins.
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Those wins against UMass, Indiana State, and Southern Miss put Butch over the top. Lol. People will say anything to justify a point.
 
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Ace said:
When Fulmer was named AD, I was against it. I know he is VFL and I want him to succeed just like I want Pruitt to succeed. My greatest fear was that CPF would want credit for resurrecting the football program and hire accordingly. I was afraid he would not want a proven coach instead he would want a coach to mold, mentor, and meddle. I hope that my fears have not become a reality, but this extension has really backfired. Fulmer’s solution will be get a new assistants, but it may be too late. I hope CPF surprises me.
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i was for it. given the options.

even being for it, my gut told me it was either gonna be great....or end badly. not a lot in between. mostly due to the circumstance he inherited. i also figured it was a stop gap...i had no expectation that fulmer was gonna be here for 10+ years, inf act i'll still be a little surprised if he's here 3 years from now.....

im not gonna go in to full on excuse mode for him, because it is looking like that extension was a bad call after year 2.....

but, for what he was given to work with.................well, it's no secret what shape we were in, and what really lied ahead as far as restoring football and the AD in general.

which is why i think patience wins out in the long run wiht pruitt. i think there's a strong belief, very likely held by Fulmer himself, that knee jerk reactions are a large part of how we got here in the first place, starting with firing him, in season, back in 08.....i think he also knows what it's like to be hamstrung by the money folks....no way Dave Clawson was choice 1 back then....

i think they take a hard look at this staff, there'll be changes made, and i think it will have to stick for at least two years to see what they can do....again.....but i won't be surprised one bit to see pruitt here thru 22 if im being honest wiht myself....

i think Fulmer's attitude about the staff changes that will be coming up will be "ok, we tried it your way (speaking to the money folks that may have had a little too much say so in who they could hire/not hire), get out of the way"

jmo. and just because that may be the attitude or conversation, doesn't mean it goes the way he wants it to mind you.

@bignewt provide edits at your liesure.....
 
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HankHill said:
Agree.
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Ron Swanson said:
SIAP, Hubbs latest article...

VolQuest - Turn them loose
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Tennessee fans themselves are out of patience, but they can’t transfer. They are tired of taking a step forward and two steps back over the last year. They are tired of seeing this team not finish games. No production or excitement on offense. They are over not seeing their defense stop a slant. They are quickly getting weary of their coach.
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Preach Hubbs...preach on brother. We are sick of it.
 
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