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Atlanta VOL said:
Pruitt isn’t going anywhere. Zero chance he gets fired this year...
I do expect some other staff changes however....
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Well, it had better be the whole offensive staff minus Tee, Ansley, and Felton. Move Neids back to TEs, and get a whole new defensive staff. We will see if Pruitt really wants to succeed, and if he can succeed, based on his hirings. If he can’t get anything but bottom of the barrel coaches, because no good assistant coaches are willing to come for only a year if he fails, them the writing will be on the wall with a big black sharpie, and it would make more sense to get rid of Pruitt too. I hope he plans on taking back over full control of the defense because it was a lot better when he was making the calls.
 
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OGbabyaviVol said:
Maybe he goes to Fulmer and negotiates a lower buyout to have a mutual parting of ways? We can dream, right?
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Unlike Butch, Pruitt would take a real job. He is too good of a DC. The buyout wouldn’t be nearly as bad as it looks on paper because a DC of his caliber is going to still get paid quite a bit. We’d only have to pay the difference.
 
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OGbabyaviVol said:
Maybe he goes to Fulmer and negotiates a lower buyout to have a mutual parting of ways? We can dream, right?
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I thought this same thing as well. He's probably never lost this much in his coaching or playing career. That said, by all accounts he is very stubborn, so he may have trouble quitting. I think we will be able to gauge his interest in keeping this job by how this team plays going down the stretch. Regardless of the scoreboard, does the team play hard? Do younger players get better? Or does the team continue to come out flat after halftime. Yes has this team been handcuffed by the QB, but it was last year too. This still doesn't explain why we can't manage to cover a slant route.
 
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@Atlanta VOL, please tell us if we limp home at 3-7 or 2-8 (losing to Vandy 🤮) that there is no way Pruitt is given another year?! Come on, man! Rally the boosters, and y’all sit down and look at this exact past history with our last 2 coaches. All of you know good and well that it won’t matter who he brings in next year, he will be a dead man walking. And y’all know that no good assistant coach worth his weight in salt will want to come here and coach, and be attached to what is a dumpster fire. Covid or no Covid, we are absolutely getting worse every since week. There is no turning that around. Why pay millions for buyouts of assistants and hiring of new assistants? Just pay the millions to get Pruitt to walk away, hire a proven winner (Freeze), and recover all of those millions in a year or 2 with increased donations and season ticket sales, because we would all be foaming at the mouth to watch our Vols play with a high flying offense led by Freeze. Remember, offense sells tickets! Make it happen, Captain!! It’s the only way. Otherwise, we will not have learned from our past decade of dumbness, and will be at this exact same point next year but without Freeze on the market.
 
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JohnnyMajorsFlask said:
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What in the world has our administration been doing with the $50-60 million in profit they have been pocketing since the SEC network came about and started handing huge amounts of money over to the schools? My word!! You think it’s a deficit now? Wait until revenue drops due to lost ticket sales, concessions, and merchandise sales.
 
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Hey @scvolfan7, what is Champ’s buyout? Isn’t it $20 million? If so, how in the world can SCe afford to pay his buyout and the staff, but we can’t? I’m sure their budget deficit is as large or larger than ours. It’s just another excuse that Tennessee makes as to why we can’t do things. @InVOLuntary has been right over and over...they will continue to force crap coaches down our throats until the bottom line says it doesn’t make sense. At that point, they will hire another 3-5 year up and comer. Only way it changes is for the fans to never offer support for that hire, demand a proven coach, and stop buying tickets and merchandise so that they see we are serious about winning now.
 
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OGbabyaviVol said:
What in the world has our administration been doing with the $50-60 million in profit they have been pocketing since the SEC network came about and started handing huge amounts of money over to the schools? My word!! You think it’s a deficit now? Wait until revenue drops due to lost ticket sales, concessions, and merchandise sales.
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Only way Pruitt is fired is possibly fired is if the team effort continues to decline and we finish 3-7 or worse, I think there will be enough heat to fire Pruitt. FSU went ahead and pulled the trigger on Willie Taggart after two years. If the effort is there for the player and we still finish 3-7, then you can make a case that Pruitt did the best he could with a limited QB, COVID, etc. He'll get 2021 and better win 7 games.
 
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OGbabyaviVol said:
Hey @scvolfan7, what is Champ’s buyout? Isn’t it $20 million? If so, how in the world can SCe afford to pay his buyout and the staff, but we can’t? I’m sure their budget deficit is as large or larger than ours. It’s just another excuse that Tennessee makes as to why we can’t do things. @InVOLuntary has been right over and over...they will continue to force crap coaches down our throats until the bottom line says it doesn’t make sense. At that point, they will hire another 3-5 year up and comer. Only way it changes is for the fans to never offer support for that hire, demand a proven coach, and stop buying tickets and merchandise so that they see we are serious about winning now.
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$13.4M - Noted politician hints at launching fundraising effort to buy out Will Muschamp’s contract
 
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Those that want Pruitt to blow out the staff and give it one more year are delusional. We’ve seen this with both Dooley and Butch. No good coaches/coordinators are coming here in a potential lame duck year. And you also throw in the fact that it’s probably out there in coaching circles that Pruitt‘s difficult to work for and your pool of candidates only gets smaller and worse in caliber.

We’ve all seen this before. Going that route is only delaying the inevitable and putting us deeper in the hole.
 
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Gilbert said:
Those that want Pruitt to blow out the staff and give it one more year are delusional. We’ve seen this with both Dooley and Butch. No good coaches/coordinators are coming here in a potential lame duck year. And you also throw in the fact that it’s probably out there in coaching circles that Pruitt‘s difficult to work for and your pool of candidates only gets smaller and worse in caliber.

We’ve all seen this before. Going that route is only delaying the inevitable and putting us deeper in the hole.
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We're not going to get what we want. UT is not going to fire Pruitt and hire a proven coach. Replacing staff and retaining Pruitt is what they will do. Nothing we say or do on this board is going to change that.
 
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OGbabyaviVol said:
Well, it had better be the whole offensive staff minus Tee, Ansley, and Felton. Move Neids back to TEs, and get a whole new defensive staff. We will see if Pruitt really wants to succeed, and if he can succeed, based on his hirings. If he can’t get anything but bottom of the barrel coaches, because no good assistant coaches are willing to come for only a year if he fails, them the writing will be on the wall with a big black sharpie, and it would make more sense to get rid of Pruitt too. I hope he plans on taking back over full control of the defense because it was a lot better when he was making the calls.
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Let Ansley leave. Only coach who should be safe is Tee and Graham. Everyone else can go. Love Neids for recruiting but he should not be an on field coach. Unless he moves back to TE. But we have had a massive coaching carousel since Pruitt got here and the coaching is getting worse. One common denominator. We need to move on before we become even more obsolete. SC will Fire Muschamp and go for Freeze. Freeze would much prefer us or Auburn. Question is do we do the smart thing or continue to oblivion?
 
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jackcrevol said:
we have no money.
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Even if we did, the university has shown us multiple times how this would be handled. For whatever reason, people think they're just going to suddenly change how they do things. They're not. UT does not put an emphasis on football. At some point, the administration just stopped giving a damn. We'll replace a few assistants and Pruitt will continue to be our coach. That's the UT way. We can bitch all we want, but it's not going to change anything.
 
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Smyrna ATL Vol said:
Let Ansley leave. Only coach who should be safe is Tee and Graham. Everyone else can go. Love Neids for recruiting but he should not be an on field coach. Unless he moves back to TE. But we have had a massive coaching carousel since Pruitt got here and the coaching is getting worse. One common denominator. We need to move on before we become even more obsolete. SC will Fire Muschamp and go for Freeze. Freeze would much prefer us or Auburn. Question is do we do the smart thing or continue to oblivion?
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Osovet should be safe, too, IMO. He's recruited well, and we have no idea if he can actually coach a position as he was stuck with TEs this year and we basically have no TEs
 
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JohnnyMajorsFlask said:
Pruitt's staff for 2021:
OC/TE: Chip Long
OL: Jim Chaney
RB: Jay Graham
WR: Tee Martin
QB: Joe Osovet

DC: Lance Thompson
DB: Derrick Ansley
DT: Bo Davis
ILB/Recruiting Coordinator: Tosh Lupoi
OLB: Brian Neidermeyer

Just a thought if we aren't gonna go for the gold and hire Freeze.
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I’m just gonna be the one to say it.... neidermeyer should be upgraded especially before being moved to the most important unit of our defense.
 
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HankHill said:
I’m just gonna be the one to say it.... neidermeyer should be upgraded especially before being moved to the most important unit of our defense.
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I say move him back to TEs and give him some kind of title so it doesn't read as a demotion. Hopefully Osovet can actually coach another offensive position.
 
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