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Kingston Vol said:
I don't disagree with your opinion that it's unprofessional, but that still doesn't make me think it's unlikely.

Like I said, I would imagine there was a personal issue - whether it be lack of effort or an issue with Pruitt or someone else on staff. But I think most of it was simply to send a message - and Fulmer has proven he'll do whatever Jeremy wants.
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I don't think it's unprofessional to fire a guy for being lazy.
 
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Kingston Vol said:
I don't disagree with your opinion that it's unprofessional, but that still doesn't make me think it's unlikely.

Like I said, I would imagine there was a personal issue - whether it be lack of effort or an issue with Pruitt or someone else on staff. But I think most of it was simply to send a message - and Fulmer has proven he'll do whatever Jeremy wants.
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Fulmer's not going to crap on his alma mater for Pruitt. I think there has to be a legit reason. Brumbaugh had to do something deserving of being fired.
 
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Weezer said:
That's why I believe Brumbaugh had to have done something off the field. QB is the absolutely worst position we have, and our blue chip OL has underperformed, but those coaches are safe? It makes no sense unless Pruitt has gone full blown Butch. Brumbaugh hasn't even had a spring practice or true summer camp with these guys. Covid blew up right after he was hired. He has to do something off the field. If that isn't the case, then I'm legit scared for our program....again.
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If I were a betting man, I’d hazard a guess that in their coaches meeting on Sunday, or maybe even post-game, Pruitt went off off, Brumbaugh probably said something back, and Pruitt cut bait right then and there.
 
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Ulysees E. McGill said:
We are the stupidest fanbase in sports..six quarters of bad play mainly because of one position sucking all to hell...and we are ready to fire our head coach that just ran off eight in a row after taking over the worst Tennessee program of all time, and only has two real classes of his own to use so far...oh and a stupid freak pandemic and the local governments overreaction to it, and overreaching rules basically destroyed a whole offseason of vital development fir a very young team.


But y'all go ahead and keep freaking out and cursing Pruitt and staff for idiots...because that is really going to make it all better..
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What message board are you reading. Who in here has called for Pruitt's head? This is all head scratching on why Brumbaugh got fired.

And yeah, our QB sucks, but you don't fire the DL coach because the QB sucks. That sounds like NCAA logic.
 
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MarcoVol said:
I thought we would be fine with JG and Shrout, too. Figured we could get to 6-4 and usher in the HB era next season.
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That would have been absolute best case scenario. If everyone is being honest, we won at the end of the year because of our defense. We didn’t ask JG to much of anything. And JG was terrible against Indiana.

With them I thought:
Loss: UGA, UF, Bama
Probable loss: Auburn, AM
Probable Wins: SC, KY, MZ
Win: Vandy, Arkansas

Best case with those two was 6-4, more than likely 5-5. I figured Bailey would start and best those two out and we would have a chance for better. That did not happen and Pruitts love for JG is now backfiring hard. He lost his team on Saturday and JG has gone off the deep end. If Bailey/Maurer does not play well and take over this team, they will quit again and it will be a terrible season.
 
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Kingston Vol said:
I don't think losing Brumbaugh is some major loss. I'd guess there is a GA or analyst who can fill that role.

My guess is Pruitt felt like:
1) Brumbaugh was not gelling with the rest of the staff. Maybe effort or attitude related.
2) He saw the entire team and staff quit on Saturday, so he decided to send a message and Brumbaugh was the easiest target.
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2nd time under Pruitt this team has quit. Vanderbilt year 1 and Kentucky. If they don’t compete against bama that whole game he might as well take the bus back with them
 
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Jwbvol said:
I'm not quite there yet. Things are definitely headed the wrong direction, but there's still plenty of opportunities to turn the season around.
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We have QB problems and JG went full Chernobyl his past six quarters of football. We’d seen 3 Mile Island from him but nothing quite like this and now we are forced to confront the fact that we really don’t have anything behind him. Assuming HB goes in he will probably be the least prepared true freshman to ever start an SEC game given he hasn’t even had the usual 3rd and 4fh string practice.

But as bad as that situation is and it is about as bad as it gets, we still won 2 SEC games with only mediocre play at QB. The team as a whole is better than what transpired this Saturday showed but when your weak link is at QB and said QB goes into full nuclear meltdown the entire team is gonna suffer.

We can still win some games but we have to have the mindset that we are playing for the future and our HC has to be aggressive on offense. Going for it on 4th can’t be your only aggressive/risky decision. The attitude we need now more than anything is a Devil May Care one. Let the boys play aggressively on both sides of the ball and use that free year of eligibility to find who our playmakers are. We have a few that are vet close but we need to find our game breakers - Gray and Ty are very close to that but when there’s no big threat at wr or TE and your QB can only throw a go route it is easy to shut the run down.

A lot of people are overplaying OL issues. The ones struggling are the young guys who got limited reps due contact tracing and JG was getting coverage sacked by Mizzou because where he can throw is limited and a lot of our burners are still too green to bail out an inaccurate QB. Bless Palmer and Johnson for their acrobatics but you can’t expect a circus act from WRs every throw.

Hopefully, Bailey brings the same energy that Maurer did. In the very limited action we did see the offense looked energized but that sample size is wayyyy too small to pin much hope on. But we need to let whoever takes over take risks. We need to let them make mistakes and know that it isn’t the end of the world. The lack of trust we saw from coaches with regards to JG does not need to be carried over to the next guy. Pruitt talks a great game about not coaching scared but when we didn’t go for that 4th the game was over. And if you have that much fear with your QB you aren’t helping him or anyone else by playing him.

Cuffs need to be completely off of whoever takes over.
 
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Smyrna ATL Vol said:
That would have been absolute best case scenario. If everyone is being honest, we won at the end of the year because of our defense. We didn’t ask JG to much of anything. And JG was terrible against Indiana.

With them I thought:
Loss: UGA, UF, Bama
Probable loss: Auburn, AM
Probable Wins: SC, KY, MZ
Win: Vandy, Arkansas

Best case with those two was 6-4, more than likely 5-5. I figured Bailey would start and best those two out and we would have a chance for better. That did not happen and Pruitts love for JG is now backfiring hard. He lost his team on Saturday and JG has gone off the deep end. If Bailey/Maurer does not play well and take over this team, they will quit again and it will be a terrible season.
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Agree with W-L except Auburn.

Everyone always gives Auburn too much credit. I never considered that a probable loss. I figured we would beat one of FL, UGA (that was dumb), Aub, A&M and go 6-4, which is fine for this year. Let Bailey learn the O more to where he’s ready to take the reins going into next season.
 
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Ulysees E. McGill said:
We are the stupidest fanbase in sports..six quarters of bad play mainly because of one position sucking all to hell...and we are ready to fire our head coach that just ran off eight in a row after taking over the worst Tennessee program of all time, and only has two real classes of his own to use so far...oh and a stupid freak pandemic and the local governments overreaction to it, and overreaching rules basically destroyed a whole offseason of vital development fir a very young team.


But y'all go ahead and keep freaking out and cursing Pruitt and staff for idiots...because that is really going to make it all better..
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I’m not for the firing of Pruitt at this point, even though I have little to no faith in him now. However, Pruitt is the one who keeps trotting this perennial loser out on the field to lead this team and not having anyone else prepared.
 
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Ulysees E. McGill said:
I don't think it's unprofessional to fire a guy for being lazy.
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Do you think the DL was the weakest part of this team? I don't for one minute believe Brumbaugh was "lazy". The guy has barely had a chance to even coach his unit since he got hired right before the corona outbreak. I'm convinced something more had to have happened.
 
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HankHill said:
2nd time under Pruitt this team has quit. Vanderbilt year 1 and Kentucky. If they don’t compete against bama that whole game he might as well take the bus back with them
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Yeah, there’s something he’s going to have to evaluate personally about why his team has laid down to start each of the last three seasons.

I still think he can be successful here, but he’s got to find his fire.
 
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