Marxist Black Lives Matter

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newarkvol said:
I like this analysis from Zizek::
Take a moment to watch--from the English riots of 2011:


"...the only form protest can take is meaningless violence. Perhaps this is one of the main dangers of capitalism: although by virtue of being global it encompasses the whole world, it sustains a ‘worldless' ideological constellation in which people are deprived of their ways of locating meaning."

"...they also contain a moment of genuine protest, in the form of an ironic response to consumerist ideology: ‘You call on us to consume-- while simultaneously depriving us of the means to do it properly – so here we are doing it the only way we can.’

Slavoj Žižek · Shoplifters of the World Unite · LRB 19 August 2011
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You cannot find meaning in a capitalist society?
 
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luthervol said:
I think a 10 year old with a gun is absolutely and gut wrenchingly horrible. Of course they are capable of pulling the trigger and killing someone. Not sure about the legalities of calling it murder.
A three year old is capable of pointing a gun and pulling the trigger.
I'm just a little bothered by how easy it is for ten year olds to get their hands on guns.
I'm done, at least temporarily, with gun discussions. It's just pathetic and depressing.
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Amazing how you quit right before you get backed into a corner you can't get out of. Same old loother troll different thread.
 
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82_VOL_83 said:
Amazing how you quit right before you get backed into a corner you can't get out of. Same old loother troll different thread.
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Seriously? I've had multiple lengthy "discussions" on the gun issue and they always end up in exactly the same place; with me thinking gun nuts are insane and not giving a rip about what the gun nuts think about my positions. The very definition of counter productive.
 
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luthervol said:
Seriously? I've had multiple lengthy "discussions" on the gun issue and they always end up in exactly the same place; with me thinking gun nuts are insane and not giving a rip about what the gun nuts think about my positions. The very definition of counter productive.
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That tends to happen when one calls others gun nuts for wanting to keep their 2a rights as they are laid out for us in the constitution. I can’t speak for everyone but when you say .. “ hey gun nut “ we need to have a reasonable and rational discussion about restricting your rights , I tend be less inclined to open up to a discussion. 😊
 
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luthervol said:
Seriously? I've had multiple lengthy "discussions" on the gun issue and they always end up in exactly the same place; with me thinking gun nuts are insane and not giving a rip about what the gun nuts think about my positions. The very definition of counter productive.
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Your problem is that you believe that any true pro 2A person is a “gun nut”. Your other issue is substituting your emotional feelings on the issue for logical thinking and actual law
 
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0nelilreb said:
That tends to happen when one calls others gun nuts for wanting to keep their 2a rights as they are laid out for us in the constitution. I can’t speak for everyone but when you say .. “ hey gun nut “ we need to have a reasonable and rational discussion about restricting your rights , I tend be less inclined to open up to a discussion. 😊
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Are you saying I need to work on my delivery?
I tried that. My first debate in the PF was in the gun thread, that's when I reached the "gun nut" conclusion.
 
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