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volinbama256 said:
Kirbz screwing/tricking that other QB by bringing in JT Daniels, especially after all the positive talk/heisman hype, has got to be seen by a lot of kids as shady as hell. Hopefully his true colors will keep showing and UGA will spiral out of control.
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Im glad Daniels is eligible. Could cause a big locker room problem if he plays over Newman
 
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SoilVol said:
Going into the Weatherd interview, I was a student when this stuff went down. Knew Nigel gave Shy the business, and was personally aware of the abuse Daniel Helm was getting. He was the highest quality young man you could meet. Tim Tebow (but screw Florida) type of personality. Butch constantly berated him and it got worse after Helm met with Butch about how Butch was acting. Butch the recruiter was not Butch the coach. Acted like Dabo in the home and drunken sailor around the team. Bullied and verbally abused multiple players and Helm left. He was far more talented than Wolf.

At the same time, I'm not sure what I think about Weatherd. He's tweeted multiple times about wanting someone to pay him or give him a mic to talk about this, and his shortcomings were his own fault for not dedicating himself to being successful. He went on a Twitter spree during halftime of a game at least once, liking hundreds of tweets about Colton Jumper after Jumper got the start over him and made some mistakes.

Alvin is kind of a diva in that he has an eccentric personality. That is known. He's also super dedicated and probably didnt bother with Weatherd because Weatherd obviously wasn't trying to succeed. I also don't think Alvin loves UT. Alvin came to UT because it was a good opportunity for him to take the next step to the NFL, he worked hard, dealt with the BS, then got paid. But also, I don't know of a single student who was at UT at the time that doesn't love Alvin. The dude was just cool, and I never got the vibe that he thought himself better than anyone else.
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Can you give us more insight on what the shy tuttle fight was really over and he said to Nigel?
 
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SoilVol said:
Going into the Weatherd interview, I was a student when this stuff went down. Knew Nigel gave Shy the business, and was personally aware of the abuse Daniel Helm was getting. He was the highest quality young man you could meet. Tim Tebow (but screw Florida) type of personality. Butch constantly berated him and it got worse after Helm met with Butch about how Butch was acting. Butch the recruiter was not Butch the coach. Acted like Dabo in the home and drunken sailor around the team. Bullied and verbally abused multiple players and Helm left. He was far more talented than Wolf.

At the same time, I'm not sure what I think about Weatherd. He's tweeted multiple times about wanting someone to pay him or give him a mic to talk about this, and his shortcomings were his own fault for not dedicating himself to being successful. He went on a Twitter spree during halftime of a game at least once, liking hundreds of tweets about Colton Jumper after Jumper got the start over him and made some mistakes.

Alvin is kind of a diva in that he has an eccentric personality. That is known. He's also super dedicated and probably didnt bother with Weatherd because Weatherd obviously wasn't trying to succeed. I also don't think Alvin loves UT. Alvin came to UT because it was a good opportunity for him to take the next step to the NFL, he worked hard, dealt with the BS, then got paid. But also, I don't know of a single student who was at UT at the time that doesn't love Alvin. The dude was just cool, and I never got the vibe that he thought himself better than anyone else.
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Kamars is smarter than average bear. Kid came from a good family, if i recall.

it's all bidness to him.
 
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TrippieRedd said:
All I saw was that Alvin doesn’t love UT and I’m upset
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Is that really super surprising though? I'd say lots of college football players don't necessarily "love" the school they attend - for many it's a business decision, especially for the really highly-touted recruits who think they can go pro, which Kamara was. Kamara also transferred here as a JUCO; he didn't initially select Tennessee.

As long as they come here and work hard, I'm OK with them not bleeding orange. Not every player who comes here is necessarily going to love the institution like the fans do, especially if they had no pre-existing ties before they committed. Kamara had already blown a chance at another big school (Alabama), and he left JUCO looking for the best opportunity for him to show out and go pro.

I can totally see Kamara having an eccentric personality, perhaps even a diva, but Weatherd went further than that by saying he had a "different mentality" than others guys (i.e., he didn't really try all that hard) then later in the interview called him a d**khead. He was just on Swain apologizing to individual guys, saying he didn't want to hurt feelings, blah blah blah. Weatherd either really poorly articulates what he's trying to say, or he's butthurt about guys going pro and he didn't.
 
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itsme said:
Mine sounds like something out an episode of Jerry Springer. At 13. I answered the phone on the other end was a Scottish voice asking to speak with my dad. When I told my dad his face was of pure terror. He told me that was my sister who was 18, he had her while he was in the army and just left her over there and had never contacted her. Then he convinces her and her mom to come over here to visit without my mom knowing and has an affair with my sister's mom. Leaves my mom, me and 2 younger brothers to fend for ourselves. Didn’t pay child support or call, either did any in his family. He has very little to do with us now but every now and then he will fly over to visit friends and then comes around acting like he’s dad of the year. Swore I’d never treat my wife or kids like that, I haven’t and won’t.
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That’s absolutely awful. It truly sucks that there are so many out there showing us how NOT to be a good Father.

I am very glad that you are following the right path.
 
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SoilVol said:
Going into the Weatherd interview, I was a student when this stuff went down. Knew Nigel gave Shy the business, and was personally aware of the abuse Daniel Helm was getting. He was the highest quality young man you could meet. Tim Tebow (but screw Florida) type of personality. Butch constantly berated him and it got worse after Helm met with Butch about how Butch was acting. Butch the recruiter was not Butch the coach. Acted like Dabo in the home and drunken sailor around the team. Bullied and verbally abused multiple players and Helm left. He was far more talented than Wolf.

At the same time, I'm not sure what I think about Weatherd. He's tweeted multiple times about wanting someone to pay him or give him a mic to talk about this, and his shortcomings were his own fault for not dedicating himself to being successful. He went on a Twitter spree during halftime of a game at least once, liking hundreds of tweets about Colton Jumper after Jumper got the start over him and made some mistakes.

Alvin is kind of a diva in that he has an eccentric personality. That is known. He's also super dedicated and probably didnt bother with Weatherd because Weatherd obviously wasn't trying to succeed. I also don't think Alvin loves UT. Alvin came to UT because it was a good opportunity for him to take the next step to the NFL, he worked hard, dealt with the BS, then got paid. But also, I don't know of a single student who was at UT at the time that doesn't love Alvin. The dude was just cool, and I never got the vibe that he thought himself better than anyone else.
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Man you were really misinformed and posting stuff like this makes it way worse.
 
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SoilVol said:
Going into the Weatherd interview, I was a student when this stuff went down. Knew Nigel gave Shy the business, and was personally aware of the abuse Daniel Helm was getting. He was the highest quality young man you could meet. Tim Tebow (but screw Florida) type of personality. Butch constantly berated him and it got worse after Helm met with Butch about how Butch was acting. Butch the recruiter was not Butch the coach. Acted like Dabo in the home and drunken sailor around the team. Bullied and verbally abused multiple players and Helm left. He was far more talented than Wolf.

At the same time, I'm not sure what I think about Weatherd. He's tweeted multiple times about wanting someone to pay him or give him a mic to talk about this, and his shortcomings were his own fault for not dedicating himself to being successful. He went on a Twitter spree during halftime of a game at least once, liking hundreds of tweets about Colton Jumper after Jumper got the start over him and made some mistakes.

Alvin is kind of a diva in that he has an eccentric personality. That is known. He's also super dedicated and probably didnt bother with Weatherd because Weatherd obviously wasn't trying to succeed. I also don't think Alvin loves UT. Alvin came to UT because it was a good opportunity for him to take the next step to the NFL, he worked hard, dealt with the BS, then got paid. But also, I don't know of a single student who was at UT at the time that doesn't love Alvin. The dude was just cool, and I never got the vibe that he thought himself better than anyone else.
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Some good inside perspective , but I don’t remember Weathered and Jumper ever playing the same linebacker spot.
 
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I thought the Chris W. was an interview were a guy was doing a lot of talking about nothing.
I don’t think he said anything that isn’t normal being on a team. Best players ALWAYS get the best treatment. And coaches cuss all the time. Smh 🤦🏾‍♂️. And Butch sucked as a coach. Nothing new
 
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I don’t get the Alvin Kamara diva talk at all. To me, a diva is someone who is entitled in the extreme and throws a fit if they aren’t catered to in every way. I’ve never heard anything negative about Alvin that even comes close to that type of behavior. My impression is that he has a unique personality but in a positive way. Seems like a fun loving guy who everyone enjoys being around.
 
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