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Have you ever got the flu after having been vaccinated? 40-60% effective most years. The vaccine did not cause it, it just was not effective for the strain you contracted. Same deal with COVID. COVID-2 has been with us for two decades. It was not as nasty initially as the current version even with SARS included. A new vaccine may work on the most current version until it mutates again, which it has done at least 3 times since first observed per many researchers.

Herd immunity and common sense practices until the threat passes. Therapeutics is the real end game. Develop stuff that kills it.

I want football. I also want the rage and hatred to end. Probably not going to happen with either anytime soon.
 
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bignewt said:
I'm not going to look at their trajectory, I'm good with looking at the actual numbers. Cash me outside in a month and we can revisit.
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Well the "actual numbers" says they are getting worse, as are we and Brazil, while several other countries are going down rapidly. Which, given they were the ones who preached herd immunity, seems to fly in the face of that logic. At this point, we may have no chance other than herd immunity since we've had such a pitiful, uncoordinated response to this.
BTW, this is from Anders Tegnell who leads Sweden's coronavirus response, which kind of indicates they didn't think things through so well:
"We never really calculated with a high death toll initially, I must say," he said. "We calculated on more people being sick, but the death toll really came as a surprise to us."
 
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DeepPurpleFloyd said:
Well the "actual numbers" says they are getting worse, as are we and Brazil, while several other countries are going down rapidly. Which, given they were the ones who preached herd immunity, seems to fly in the face of that logic. At this point, we may have no chance other than herd immunity since we've had such a pitiful, uncoordinated response to this.
BTW, this is from Anders Tegnell who leads Sweden's coronavirus response, which kind of indicates they didn't think things through so well:
"We never really calculated with a high death toll initially, I must say," he said. "We calculated on more people being sick, but the death toll really came as a surprise to us."
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Still. .071% looks pretty good to me.
 
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bignewt said:
Still. .071% looks pretty good to me.
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Stockholm Won't Reach Herd Immunity In May, Sweden's Chief Epidemiologist Says :

"The study's results have provided further fuel for the critics of the Swedish approach. With 39.57 deaths per 100,000, Sweden's mortality rate is not only higher than that of the U.S. (30.02 deaths per 100,000) but also exponentially higher than those of its neighbors Norway (4.42 per 100,000) and Finland (5.58 per 100,000), which both enacted strict lockdown measures, according to data compiled by Johns Hopkins University. "

Earlier this month, Tegnell admitted he is not sure Sweden's strategy was the right call. "I'm not convinced at all — we are constantly thinking about this," he told Swedish newspaper Aftonbladet.
 
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DeepPurpleFloyd said:
Stockholm Won't Reach Herd Immunity In May, Sweden's Chief Epidemiologist Says :

"The study's results have provided further fuel for the critics of the Swedish approach. With 39.57 deaths per 100,000, Sweden's mortality rate is not only higher than that of the U.S. (30.02 deaths per 100,000) but also exponentially higher than those of its neighbors Norway (4.42 per 100,000) and Finland (5.58 per 100,000), which both enacted strict lockdown measures, according to data compiled by Johns Hopkins University. "

Earlier this month, Tegnell admitted he is not sure Sweden's strategy was the right call. "I'm not convinced at all — we are constantly thinking about this," he told Swedish newspaper Aftonbladet.
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They should be always thinking about it but more deaths could rest with a lot of factors, not all pinned to their overall strategy. Almost half of the deaths are in Stockholm, the biggest city in Scandanavia...hmmm...
 
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bignewt said:
They should be always thinking about it but more deaths could rest with a lot of factors, not all pinned to their overall strategy. Almost half of the deaths are in Stockholm, the biggest city in Scandanavia...hmmm...
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Are they counting anyone that dies with it whether or not it is the cause of death as we are?
 
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vol72 said:
If you didn't see it, Google Star Spangled STEEL. I am unable to post the YouTube link, but a great pro-2nd Amendment July 4th video from the folks at Black Rifle Coffee Company.
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Not the same one I'm sure, but made me think of this:
 
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Catbone said:
This, as a whole, is the worst year ever
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Tell someone that who lived through the Great Depression or WWII and you'll be laughed at. My granny would tell me about them just about starving to death when they were going on. My aunts and uncles used to go to the garbage dump with sticks and rocks to fight people over scraps of food just to have something to eat. You are posting on a message board from a hand held computer and can order a pizza from it any time. Relax, maybe we in these last few generations are just a bunch of wusses.
 
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