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So the Illinois State Trooper is claiming this was all over an air freshener hanging on a rear view mirror. if that is the case, this makes it far, far worse of a reaction than expired tags or a stolen vehicle.

 
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Hamilton County prosecutor asks TBI to investigate beating of Black man by sheriff's deputies

For five-and-a-quarter minutes, deputies beat Arrington and held him to the ground, the video shows.

Arrington's limp body is then picked up and placed in the back of a patrol vehicle.

Arrington was charged with resisting arrest, simple assault on police, criminal impersonation, pedestrian in roadway and four counts of aggravated assault on police. All of the charges were dropped on Tuesday by Pinkston.
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utvolpj said:
Cops should be going after people for fireworks?

People need to make up their minds on the roles of police
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Dramatic video shows moment Bronx Toddler Struck by Fireworks

This is the frantic moment a 3-year-old boy was struck by a firework that flew through the window of his Bronx apartment early Wednesday — leaving him with burns and stitches.

The boy was watching the fireworks being set off outside his sixth-floor apartment on Anderson Street around 12:15 a.m. Wednesday. His teenage sister was filming the illegal light show when a missile suddenly shot through the open window, striking the boy, who began screaming.

The toddler suffered burns on his left arm and received five stitches to his forearm in the harrowing incident.

https://nypost.com/2020/06/24/dramatic-video-shows-moment-bronx-toddler-struck-by-firework/
 
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Franklin Pierce said:
Dramatic video shows moment Bronx Toddler Struck by Fireworks

This is the frantic moment a 3-year-old boy was struck by a firework that flew through the window of his Bronx apartment early Wednesday — leaving him with burns and stitches.

The boy was watching the fireworks being set off outside his sixth-floor apartment on Anderson Street around 12:15 a.m. Wednesday. His teenage sister was filming the illegal light show when a missile suddenly shot through the open window, striking the boy, who began screaming.

The toddler suffered burns on his left arm and received five stitches to his forearm in the harrowing incident.

https://nypost.com/2020/06/24/dramatic-video-shows-moment-bronx-toddler-struck-by-firework/
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Seriously that's what you've got?

No indictment for Ga. cops who burned baby with grenade - CNN
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
WTF am I watching here? Still wondering what all went down because of the choppy nature of the video.

First off, why did they put him in handcuffs and place him under arrest? For violating some traffic/pedestrian law? Next, did he resist? Lastly, what was going on in the last few minutes where he was apparently in the squad car?
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Choppy video? Played fine for me. They did place him under arrest for walking on the wrong side of the road. As three officers escorted him to the squad car in cuffs, the video shows the perp appearing to turn to the officer on his left. We can't see what his hands are doing, but it does appear his arms are restrained. After he turned to his left, the beating began. He was in cuffs the entire time and flailing his legs. It looked like one officer was on top of him on the ground the entire time, and the other officers had to beat him strategically with their batons to avoid contacting the officer.

Sheriff is saying that perp tried to unholster a deputy's weapon. The video doesn't definiteively show what happened one way or the other. But the DA asked the TBI to get involved, and all the charges were dropped.
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
WTF am I watching here? Still wondering what all went down because of the choppy nature of the video.

First off, why did they put him in handcuffs and place him under arrest? For violating some traffic/pedestrian law? Next, did he resist? Lastly, what was going on in the last few minutes where he was apparently in the squad car?
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Thank God this dangerous criminal was taken off the road for walking on the wrong side of the street.

Just another frivolous stop that resulted in police brutality.
 
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vol445 said:
And who cares about marijuana any more. Should be legal. I misread tag light. Never used that one. Actually the only one I used was brake light and those are always warnings
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Brake lights are always warnings? Then why pull someone over for a busted taillight?
 
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MOOOOONEY said:
Thank God this dangerous criminal was taken off the road for walking on the wrong side of the street.

Just another frivolous stop that resulted in police brutality.
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He was arrested because you can't cite someone who commits the offense of criminal impersonation when you know they are lying about their true identity, as they obviously won't show to go to court. He looked to be clearly exhibiting some kind of mental/drug issue, as well as was the reason 911 was called on him in the first place. But hard to tell from the video about the grabbing the officer's firearm. If he did it would explain how the other officer panicked and went straight to baton.

If he grabbed the officer's weapon, the only thing i could see being improved here is a bit of officer training in how they were walking him to the cruiser to begin with. IMO due to his behavior, he should've been cuffed and searched while being detained rather than letting him rummage through his own pockets like that. Too many red flags (and no race is not one of them)
 
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Rickyvol77 said:
He was arrested because you can't cite someone who commits the offense of criminal impersonation when you know they are lying about their true identity, as they obviously won't show to go to court. He looked to be clearly exhibiting some kind of mental/drug issue, as well as was the reason 911 was called on him in the first place. But hard to tell from the video about the grabbing the officer's firearm. If he did it would explain how the other officer panicked and went straight to baton.

If he grabbed the officer's weapon, the only thing i could see being improved here is a bit of officer training in how they were walking him to the cruiser to begin with. IMO due to his behavior, he should've been cuffed and searched while being detained rather than letting him rummage through his own pockets like that. Too many red flags (and no race is not one of them)
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This one is very strange. I agree, in hindsight, it wouldn't have been a bad idea to cuff him earlier. On the other hand, he wasn't showing any signs of resistance or hostility at any point, so I can also see why they opted to not cuff him.

I don't know wtf to make of that movement before they started beating him. Def can't say that he didn't reach for the gun, but he looked pretty well restrained. Couple that with the fact that the charges were dropped, and you have yourself a big bowl of wtf.
 
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Chris4Vols22 said:
This one is very strange. I agree, in hindsight, it wouldn't have been a bad idea to cuff him earlier. On the other hand, he wasn't showing any signs of resistance or hostility at any point, so I can also see why they opted to not cuff him.

I don't know wtf to make of that movement before they started beating him. Def can't say that he didn't reach for the gun, but he looked pretty well restrained. Couple that with the fact that the charges were dropped, and you have yourself a big bowl of wtf.
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Charges were likely dropped because they found out he is severely mentally ill and the DA decided not to prosecute.
 
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Chris4Vols22 said:
Definitely a possibility.

I can't think of an excuse for the nature of the beating though.
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What do you mean? They were appropriately using the batons as he was actively kicking them and resisting. They didn't go overboard and they didn't hit spots you aren't supposed to (like cracking his head). It wasn't a "beating" no matter what the media wants to portray it as. If they were actively trying to hurt him, they would have, they were trying to gain control of him.
 
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Rickyvol77 said:
He was arrested because you can't cite someone who commits the offense of criminal impersonation when you know they are lying about their true identity, as they obviously won't show to go to court. He looked to be clearly exhibiting some kind of mental/drug issue, as well as was the reason 911 was called on him in the first place. But hard to tell from the video about the grabbing the officer's firearm. If he did it would explain how the other officer panicked and went straight to baton.

If he grabbed the officer's weapon, the only thing i could see being improved here is a bit of officer training in how they were walking him to the cruiser to begin with. IMO due to his behavior, he should've been cuffed and searched while being detained rather than letting him rummage through his own pockets like that. Too many red flags (and no race is not one of them)
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911 was called because he was acting suspicious for asking directions on how to get out of a neighborhood. What’s suspicious about asking directions?

He was stopped walking down the road and a frivolous law was used to stop him. A frivolous law was used to violate his constitutional rights and add more charges. There’s a reason all these frivolous laws exist and they are not to protect anyone.

Why are you hung up on race? Cops violate the rights of blacks, whites, Hispanics, Asians, republicans, democrats, conservatives, and liberals.

Law enforcement officers only care about protecting the thin blue line.
 
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MOOOOONEY said:
911 was called because he was acting suspicious for asking directions on how to get out of a neighborhood. What’s suspicious about asking directions?

He was stopped walking down the road and a frivolous law was used to stop him. A frivolous law was used to violate his constitutional rights and add more charges. There’s a reason all these frivolous laws exist and they are not to protect anyone.

Why are you hung up on race? Cops violate the rights of blacks, whites, Hispanics, Asians, republicans, democrats, conservatives, and liberals.

Law enforcement officers only care about protecting the thin blue line.
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Listen to what he is saying, especially in the back of the patrol car. he clearly is unstable likely due to drugs and mental illness, it is pretty obvious.

That is why 911 was called, his story and the way he was acting didn't make sense and people know when something isn't normal.

Violate his constitutional right? Afraid not.

And i am not hung up on race, but that is the reason this is such a "big story" right now, if he was white, you never would've heard about this story, because it's not that big of a deal either way.

and again BS, I would be the first to criticize these officers if they did something wrong (like the officer cursing at him out of frustration definitely should be written up for that), but the response to resistance was appropriate for the circumstances, especially if he really did grab an officer's weapon.
 
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Rickyvol77 said:
What do you mean? They were appropriately using the batons as he was actively kicking them and resisting. They didn't go overboard and they didn't hit spots you aren't supposed to (like cracking his head). It wasn't a "beating" no matter what the media wants to portray it as. If they were actively trying to hurt him, they would have, they were trying to gain control of him.
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Ricky let me hand cuff you and hit you with a baton and video your reaction. I guarantee that you will be “resisting also”

This is the reason that law enforcement needs a complete overhaul. They excuse the inexcusable. It’s all about protecting the thin blue line.
 
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MOOOOONEY said:
Ricky let me hand cuff you and hit you with a baton and video your reaction. I guarantee that you will be “resisting also”

This is the reason that law enforcement needs a complete overhaul. They excuse the inexcusable. It’s all about protecting the thin blue line.
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If i grabbed your gun from it's holster, then you are perfectly able to hit me with a baton and try to control me further. The video shows the officer hit him with the baton quickly (which leads me to believe that the gun grabbing did occur because it was so swift), and as they got him to the ground he continued to resist and try to kick them several times. They didn't use a baton at all until he resisted.

On top of that, even if you handcuffed me and hit me with a baton for all of that, it still wouldn't explain the gibberish and his behaviors, which once again, point to excited delirium from drug use and/OR mental illness.
 
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MOOOOONEY said:
I think you have a comprehension problem.

The cop will get his day in court the other guy is dead.
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One guy was going his job, the other was putting people in harm's way then assaulted two officers making a lawful arrest, stole a weapon in the commission of a felony, then fired a deadly weapon at an officer. There should have been no changes for murder. There was a rush to judge this officer guilty as evidenced by the mayor's actions and words and charge him before an investigation could be concluded.

I think you might be the one with the comprehension problem there chief.
 
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