George Floyd Protest/Riots

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n_huffhines said:
You forgot to mention the part where you invent the argument/claim for the people with whom you disagree. I did not do that. I said I do not trust him, which is an expression of my opinion, and I didn't "invent" anything.

You're a waste of time. You essentially made up arguments for me. You asked me to produce evidence that Barr is dishonest, a claim I did not make. You are the one committing the straw man fallacy

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I do not trust Barr because he hasn't earned my trust. He's demonstrated questionable judgment, IMO. He's big government, which I do not trust. He is offering a narrative that he has an incentive to push. Why should I trust his story enough to conclude their actions were justified?

You may believe the government. You may believe what you wanna believe. I choose not to hand my trust over to people in DC.
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Absent substantiation, I consider labeling someone a liar to dismiss the argument exactly that fabrication. But ffs - fine, I'll be devil's advocate "You're entirely correct, Huff. Now why is Barr dishonest?"

You have stated Barr misled us on Mueller; that's exactly calling him dishonest. If that's the basis for your not trusting him, okay - it's entirely a false claim - but okay. Don't pretend you haven't called him dishonest while feinting with "untrustworthy". Claim your stake.

Yeah, I'm always a waste of time when people throw shite on the wall and avoid substantiation, my friend.
 
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KB5252 said:
He was expressing his white privilege....... Oh wait!

The is a perfect example and illustration that the issue is not racial.
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He was using it to help minorities so it was erased.

If he had a gun and wanted Fuddruckers then they would have left him alone.

It happened a month ago
 
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NCFisher said:
Absent substantiation, I consider labeling someone a liar to dismiss the argument exactly that fabrication. But ffs - fine, I'll be devil's advocate "You're entirely correct, Huff. Now why is Barr dishonest?"

You have stated Barr misled us on Mueller; that's exactly calling him dishonest. If that's the basis for your not trusting him, okay - it's entirely a false claim - but okay. Don't pretend you haven't called him dishonest while feinting with "untrustworthy". Claim your stake.

Yeah, I'm always a waste of time when people throw shite on the wall and avoid substantiation, my friend.
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You looked back through my post history to try and pretend your strawman was justified and that's the best you found?

Not that you'll ever get anything out of this, but saying someone misled me and saying I judge a person to be dishonest are two entirely different things. Go back to the drawing board and figure out your next terrible argument
 
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Franklin Pierce said:
Minneapolis Mayor Asks Trump For Aid After Riots Cause At Least $55 Million In Damage

The Minneapolis mayor is asking for federal help cleaning up and rebuilding his city after rioters caused at least $55 million worth of damage through looting, burning, and defacing public and private property.

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That cost estimate is likely to increase in the coming days as government officials continue to tally the damage done in the wake of George Floyd’s death, Mayor Jacob Frey said according to the Minneapolis Star Tribune. Minnesota Gov. Tim Walz and the state’s congressional delegation are also pushing the Trump administration and Congress for funding.

The protests devolved into riots and Minneapolis police were overwhelmed with widespread looting and burning. Frey also held the police back, one night ordering them to abandon the 3rd Police Precinct were Chauvin and the other former officers had been stationed.

Minneapolis Mayor Asks Trump For Aid After Riots Cause At Least $55 Million In Damage
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Just use the money they save from eliminating their police force.
 
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This is true for both sides who hate.

“I imagine one of the reasons people cling to their hates so stubbornly is because they sense, once hate is gone, they will be forced to deal with pain.”

James Baldwin
 
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Ten_Titans said:
Shannon Sharpe says Drew Brees should retire: 'I will never respect the man'

Damn. Really thought that apology was gonna work. Oh well. If Drew Brees just kills himself maybe they will think he wasn't so bad in a few years.

Respect the flag... Man. Might as well have said he supported bringing back lynchings.
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Shannon Sharpe is a joke. He and Skip both. He’s just pissed that Drew Brees has done more for minorities and his surrounding communities than he ever has. It’s amazing how one interview can make people want to destroy a guy who did so much for an entire city. People are weak minded AF.
 
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VolFaninFla said:
Police officer comforts little girl after she asks: 'Are you going to shoot us?'
He should have told her that he may not shoot her but he would shove her and make her crack her head on the concrete if she got in the way when they were marching towards her. And it would be her own damn fault she was injured.
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The cops will find out that a little girl won't be as easy to knock off her feet as an old guy walking backwards. She also has a lower center of gravity.
 
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RockyTop85 said:
🤦🏻‍♂️

He said two things:
1) There were some protests that were violent so we wanted to expand the perimeter.
2) This protest was turning violent and throwing things.

I’ve already explicitly stated which of these things was a lie. Also it should be easy to see which is verifiable.

So, you’re now attempting to parody right wingers by saying they can’t read, can’t perform basic process of elimination logic, and aren’t smart enough to conceive of a way to expand the perimeter without gassing and beating law abiding citizens.

That’s just an offensive level of elitism. You should stop.
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How is item 1 a lie?
Unless you’re saying that throwing projectiles at LE and the military are not violent acts?
 
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So the DC Mayor is kicking out all the National Guard currently there, right before what is billed to be a million person protest in her city.

This whole damn thing is looking like a political coup. Trying to force Trump’s hand to EO the Insurrection Act. High ranking leftist military and civilians geared up for mutiny as soon as he does. Esper becomes CiC at that time, military takes control, removes Trump and Pence and we get drunk azz ignorant Nancy as Pres. 🤦‍♀️
 
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DynaLo said:
How is item 1 a lie?
Unless you’re saying that throwing projectiles at LE and the military are not violent acts?
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How would I know if they had planned to expand the perimeter? Item 1 is unverifiable.

That there had been violent protests is undisputed. I suppose it’s a separate thing he said that was actually true, but it was stated as the motive for wanting to expand the perimeter so I included them together.
 
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RockyTop85 said:
How would I know if they had planned to expand the perimeter? Item 1 is unverifiable.

That there had been violent protests is undisputed. I suppose it’s a separate thing he said that was actually true, but it was stated as the motive for wanting to expand the perimeter so I included them together.
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Ok, well this part👇 came across as verifiable and lie being two different items.

“I’ve already explicitly stated which of these things was a lie. Also it should be easy to see which is verifiable.”

So actually there really wasn't a lie. Just an unverifiable statement, to non involved folks, concerning perimeter expansion.
 
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C-south said:
Let’s not pretend there isn’t a level of violence and aggression needed to be a law enforcement officer. It’s not like they deal with model citizens on a daily basis and people cry racism or excessive use of force when they have to take down an armed suspect.
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Why are so many unarmed suspects being murdered?
 
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DynaLo said:
Ok, well this part👇 came across as verifiable and lie being two different items.

“I’ve already explicitly stated which of these things was a lie. Also it should be easy to see which is verifiable.”

So actually there really wasn't a lie. Just an unverifiable statement, to non involved folks, concerning perimeter expansion.
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Wait, so you understand that an unverifiable statement cannot be proven to be a lie, and I’ve shown I understand that it cannot be proven to be a lie. Nevertheless, you still think you read that correctly and, aren’t going back to look at where I explicitly said what was a lie?

Works for me.
 
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zeppelin128 said:
They should have put two in his head, one in the chest. We can't have anyone disagreeing with the Red Hat coalition.
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We certainly can’t have anyone disagreeing with the vaghats. Just ask the family of the 77 year old man shoot over a tv.

This is all tragic but every side has to do better. Finally most Americans came together to denounce the murder of George Floyd but the vaghats turned it into a circus. Looting, destroying innocent people’s property, and murder will not get sympathy from most Americans. We had an opportunity for meaningful discussions but again looting and burning down cities are more important than real change.
 
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