George Floyd Protest/Riots

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Here's where this whole outrage has gotten us. Here we have an incident about a taco shop in Columbus who got a large order from the State Highway patrol for 500 tacos. Three employees throw a fit and walk off the job:

-Amid demonstrations protesting the killing of George Floyd, three of our team members got into an heated discussion with management over fulfilling an order from members of the Ohio Highway Patrol at our Polaris restaurant.

-Because we understand that emotions and tensions are raw right now, we offered those employees the option to sit out making that order, without repercussion, while other team members handled it.

Because of their principles and feelings, they chose not to complete their work shifts and left the restaurant. We respect their feelings, and their right to remove themselves from the situation.
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These employees raise hell on social media. Threaten boycotts with the backing of BLM and at the very least the company is forced to close their Columbus locations for a day just to calm everyone down:

“We closed our Columbus locations on Tuesday to allow room for conversation between our team.

We will re-open our Polaris and Clintonville locations soon; all of our other Columbus restaurants are open and welcoming all guests.”
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Taco store: No, we didn't fire our staff for refusing to serve cops; we are inclusive of everyone (huh?)

So tell me, what's inclusive about refusing to fill an order? I agree with the owners of this shop who said this:

But choosing not to serve a particular group, in this case law enforcement officers, in itself is discrimination and goes against our core values to welcome and serve everyone. We will continue to spread love and not hate.
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volbeast33 said:
They feel it is very disrespectful..... I do as well..... not that I care anything about what Kap does bc he can stand, kneel, do the worm I don’t really care but my kids will be taught to stand and show respect for the flag.
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They can feel however they want to feel, but passing judgment on others based on completely subjective and sensitive views isn't very useful. The fact of the matter is kneeling is not a sign of disrespect in any culture. They are saying they mean no disrespect. If you want to say "for me, I feel like I would be disrespecting the flag if I did it" that's fine, but it's erroneous to dismiss them because you don't like the manner of their protest. It's silly to judge them based on your sacred cow standards.
 
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NashVol11 said:
At the most tone-deaf moment possible, which you left out. He can speak freely, and anyone who wants to be a contrarian right now can speak freely, but IMO they 100% deserve the collective eyeroll they’ve gotten
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He’s not getting an eyeroll. He’s getting venom.
Maybe he should’ve articulated his point more clearly or couched it better, but he even included the civil rights movement in his explanation of what the flag represents to him. It’s not as if he said “Love it or leave it”.

I guess my issue is him getting called out for a lack of tact by people who are showing zero tact.
 
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LouderVol said:
You can make assumptions about what he hears in the locker room but I cant? You arent going to find any coming out and saying this stuff. But willing to bet you would hear some of it in a locker room. Hence the possible confusion. Idk maybe Brees is insensitive but I dont see it being farfetched to say the talking points arent there.
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My assumption is that he is hearing what we are hearing, just more of it. You're assuming he's hearing something we are not hearing. Why wouldn't we be hearing some people saying "**** America" or something like that if they felt it? I agree that some guys are cautious with what they say, but it's not like all NFL players are afraid to say some stupid **** when they are passionate. There should at least be a handful of loose cannons if there are enough of them behind the scenes to confuse the message for Brees.
 
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zeppelin128 said:
It basically means "anyone that disagrees with my narrow world view should shut up."
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So that isn't exactly what everyone is screaming at Drew Brees? Interesting.

It blows my mind you can turn on the news or go on social media and think it is right wingers attempting to shut down the discussion, lol.
 
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NashVol11 said:
“All Lives Matter” is a denouncement of BLM. It exists only to oppose BLM. Kneeling is a contrarian opposition of *checks notes* ...police brutality? Those aren’t the same thing
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But it isn't different. You want it to be a denouncement of BLM, but it's a universal truth. It's a statement that we are not different.
 
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n_huffhines said:
They can feel however they want to feel, but passing judgment on others based on completely subjective and sensitive views isn't very useful. The fact of the matter is kneeling is not a sign of disrespect in any culture. They are saying they mean no disrespect. If you want to say "for me, I feel like I would be disrespecting the flag if I did it" that's fine, but it's erroneous to dismiss them because you don't like the manner of their protest. It's silly to judge them based on your sacred cow standards.
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Is this your first day in the world...... everybody judges everyone nowadays based off personal feelings..... I consider myself non-offendable so I don’t care what he does.... I also understand that it is a very emotional issue to a lot of people and he knew that he would get the reaction he got..... I don’t understand crying about it when he got exactly what he wanted.
 
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NashVol11 said:
“All Lives Matter” is a denouncement of BLM. It exists only to oppose BLM. Kneeling is a contrarian opposition of *checks notes* ...police brutality? Those aren’t the same thing
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It's alright man. Press harder. You can get that square block through the round hole with enough belief in social justice.
 
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GAVol said:
I guess my issue is him getting called out for a lack of tact by people who are showing zero tact.
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I agree that lack of tact in support of this movement is currently much more socially acceptable than lack of tact in the other direction. I think that’s fair
 
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n_huffhines said:
. If you want to say "for me, I feel like I would be disrespecting the flag if I did it" that's fine, but it's erroneous to dismiss them because you don't like the manner of their protest.
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Isn’t that what Brees did though? I don’t think I heard him discuss the actual protest; just the manner they were going about it.
 
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NashVol11 said:
Because your “differing opinion” was actually a terrible and insensitive opinion and you’ve admitted as much. Happens all the time.

Adrian Peterson had a differing opinion on beating his kids, I’m sure he still donated
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"terrible opinion"? :rolleyes:
 
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KB5252 said:
But it isn't different. You want it to be a denouncement of BLM, but it's a universal truth. It's a statement that we are not different.
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If it is a universal truth (and it is) then you are being both wounded and obnoxious to feel the need to shout it at black people. No one is saying “not all lives matter”
 
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Sea Ray said:
Here's where this whole outrage has gotten us. Here we have an incident about a taco shop in Columbus who got a large order from the State Highway patrol for 500 tacos. Three employees throw a fit and walk off the job:



These employees raise hell on social media. Threaten boycotts with the backing of BLM and at the very least the company is forced to close their Columbus locations for a day just to calm everyone down:



Taco store: No, we didn't fire our staff for refusing to serve cops; we are inclusive of everyone (huh?)

So tell me, what's inclusive about refusing to fill an order? I agree with the owners of this shop who said this:
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F'ing morons
 
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NashVol11 said:
If it is a universal truth (and it is) then you are being both wounded and obnoxious to feel the need to shout it at black people. No one is saying “not all lives matter”
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They just shout at white people if they point it out.
 
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GAVol said:
Isn’t that what Brees did though? I don’t think I heard him discuss the actual protest; just the manner they were going about it.
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Sort of, but the way it came off was he was implying he thinks they are disrespecting America, the troops, and the flag. I know lots of people have different levels of issue with what he said, but for me, it was just a tone deafness thing. Lebron got defensive by saying he has relatives who are military and his point was he can respect America/troops and still protest in this way. If Brees had said "I can't bring myself to kneel because of what it means to me, but I won't judge others and I'll help the cause in other ways." I think it would have been perfectly fine. I realize some people still wouldn't be happy with that, but I'd have no problem with him. Either way, I'm not going to judge Brees very harshly. It's hard to say the perfectly right thing when it's a sensitive subject.
 
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NashVol11 said:
If it is a universal truth (and it is) then you are being both wounded and obnoxious to feel the need to shout it at black people. No one is saying “not all lives matter”
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I've not shouted it at anyone. It is a stated truth, and if some emotionally stunted person gets butthurt then they really need to self-examine their psyche
 
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