George Floyd Protest/Riots

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Offset Eye said:
There are valid points being made on both sides. The riots absolutely must stop, and the police in some instances are unable (for various reasons) or unwilling to take control. Local police in many areas were never setup to handle riots of this scale and some restraint on their part, however frustrating it can seem, is necessary. Utilizing the Guard can be effective, but if Martial Law is enacted and the Military is turned loose, things could get out of hand and right quick. I would ask that those desiring this option consider the potential outcomes both short and long term. It wouldn't just be those rioting that would be impacted.
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First step, enact a law today, anyone caught looting, burning, harming, destroying anything or anyone during this, if on any type of government assistance, is to lose that for the entirety of their lives.

See if people wake up........ rather, see how long until they change how they act.

No more section 8 or governmental housing, no more welfare, food stamps, disability, nothing.

I'd say burn their houses down, but, 99.9% of these looters and losers do not own homes. So, take away their gravy trains and no pity or remorse or concern or care for those deserving of this as they have shown to not be worthy of such repentance.
 
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GoBigOrangeUT said:
Pretty sure getting smoke in your eyes is irritating, and the fact the park police didn’t know the POTUS wasn’t coming through is hilariously stupid.
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Even the secret service said it was a last minute decision. OK smoke may itch for a bit but it's a lot different then tear gas, walk away and it gets better
 
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allvol123 said:
Are they being told they can?

Do you understand the ridiculous position they are in?
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They are in the same ridiculous situation soldiers would be in if deployed. The differences are cops signed up for that job and are trained for it. Soldiers are not trained for crowd control nor is it what they signed up to do.
 
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tennvols77 said:
First step, enact a law today, anyone caught looting, burning, harming, destroying anything or anyone during this, if on any type of government assistance, is to lose that for the entirety of their lives.

See if people wake up........ rather, see how long until they change how they act.

No more section 8 or governmental housing, no more welfare, food stamps, disability, nothing.

I'd say burn their houses down, but, 99.9% of these looters and losers do not own homes. So, take away their gravy trains and no pity or remorse or concern or care for those deserving of this as they have shown to not be worthy of such repentance.
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I understand your passion, but what you are proposing is not an option. To debate the merits of whether it should or should not be an option is fruitless. It simply will not be considered.
 
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hog88 said:
They are in the same ridiculous situation soldiers would be in if deployed. The differences are cops signed up for that job and are trained for it. Soldiers are not trained for crowd control nor is it what they signed up to do.
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Point stands. I dont think cops are refraining from stepping up because they aren't trained well enough or they arent brave enough. They've likely been instructed to essentially stand down.
 
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hog88 said:
They are in the same ridiculous situation soldiers would be in if deployed. The differences are cops signed up for that job and are trained for it. Soldiers are not trained for crowd control nor is it what they signed up to do.
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I agree. The average soldier isn’t trained for this and I’m not sure there’s enough MPs to make that much of a difference. The military would hamstring soldiers even more than the local police are.
 
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zeppelin128 said:
Well, be happy VN. I've got liberals asking what the best gun is to buy for self defense. I'm not a gun guy, but I think a .357 is best. Easy to load, point and shoot, that kind of thing. I don't know **** about guns, but that seems the best against the coming hoards of GOP.
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Stay away from the AR14.

Rare = expensive
 
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BreatheUT said:
The thing about Tucker he is a straight shooter. A rare thing in today's media. He wasn't trying to choose sides. Sadly, liberals look at this as a victory and an indictment against Trump because they know CNN and MSNBC full staff could never be this unbiased so it keeps them in a bubble.
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Tucker did Trump a solid with that 30 minutes.

1) he puts it all on Jared, who nobody really likes or trusts anyhow and the Trump base now gets to say, see it’s been Jared screwing things up all along. Circle the wagons around Trump.
2) he got a message across to Trump that Jared is more hurt than help with the base and he needs curb kicked
3) Trump now has a legitimate, nationally broadcast, reason to put Jared back in the closet that the family can’t argue with due to the upcoming election

It got me wondering since Tucker was originally so close to Trump, has Jared’s recent increased involvement in all things included locking out certain folks Trump used to be more involved with? Why else would Tucker mention folks being hand picked by Jared? Or, see item 3. Which brings up the question, was this planned out between Trump and Tucker?😂
 
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Through all of this -this is pretty clear to most-
Today's liberal progressive party is as close as we have come to a Nazi party since 30's and 40's.:

Steals/insures (2016) the parties nomination for their preferred candidate (Clinton)
Loses said election and refuses to accept
Outgoing President Sets up and spies on incoming President using deep state operatives(proof)
Outgoing President sets up his own group in "OFA" Organizing for action, 30-50K strong for chaos and resistance to new regime
OFA implements tactics to organize resistance to Trump Admin including immigration, climate change, sexual equality, abortion etc. (who do you think is behind these immigration caravans)
Shadow government, lies to a Fisa court on a Nazi er uh Demopcrat party paid for fictitious document (Steele) and due to deep state ops in DOJ gets away with it
Runs an illegal witch hunt through politically active courts costing taxpayers millions-
OH yes ,now has their own brownshirts in Antifa-
There is plenty more-

Disdain for the American way of life, hate themselves, hate America, hate the constitution
We are right there at the cusp of losing our Constitutional Republic- SAD.
 
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1SmokinVol said:
Through all of this -this is pretty clear to most-
Today's liberal progressive party is as close as we have come to a Nazi party since 30's and 40's.:

Steals/insures (2016) the parties nomination for their preferred candidate (Clinton)
Loses said election and refuses to accept
Outgoing President Sets up and spies on incoming President using deep state operatives(proof)
Outgoing President sets up his own group in "OFA" Organizing for action, 30-50K strong for chaos and resistance to new regime
OFA implements tactics to organize resistance to Trump Admin including immigration, climate change, sexual equality, abortion etc. (who do you think is behind these immigration caravans)
Shadow government, lies to a Fisa court on a Nazi er uh Demopcrat party paid for fictitious document (Steele) and due to deep state ops in DOJ gets away with it
Runs an illegal witch hunt through politically active courts costing taxpayers millions-
OH yes ,now has their own brownshirts in Antifa-
There is plenty more-

Disdain for the American way of life, hate themselves, hate America, hate the constitution
We are right there at the cusp of losing our Constitutional Republic- SAD.
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Oh my this is spooky.
 
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allvol123 said:
Point stands. I dont think cops are refraining from stepping up because they aren't trained well enough or they arent brave enough. They've likely been instructed to essentially stand down.
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And I’m saying our soldiers would be under the same ridiculous orders.

You’d be putting them in an impossible situation.
 
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Offset Eye said:
I understand your passion, but what you are proposing is not an option. To debate the merits of whether it should or should not be an option is fruitless. It simply will not be considered.
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Agree sadly.

And, that is why we have had the same political issues and campaign promises for decades on the same issues.......and why we are still dealing with riots and the such for decades as well, we like to gripe and complain and suffer, instead of putting common sense, simple, and effective solutions that make actual change.
 
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